Hi everyone,
I am interested in selling my position on the Andreas Rogge waiting list. Last January, I placed an order for a set in C made of plum with boxwood mounts. The set is pictured on Andreas’ website. The pipes should be ready in approximately two years, based on the waiting period given to me by Jens. If anyone is interested, please PM me.
Thanks, Skip
You’re going to “sell” your position? Boy, things are getting bad!
Position seller? 
That it can be done?
Really, I’m thinking that I still needing to know a lot of things about Uilleann piping!!
Hi Elbogo,
The 20% deposit to place an order with Andreas is used for materials and is, thus, not refundable. That deposit has been made (at a time when the U.S. dollar/Euro exchange rate was more favorable to U.S. buyers I might add!). By using the term “selling,” I simply mean recovering the deposit money. Anyone who wants to cut a 3 year wait into 2 for a set of Rogge flat pitch pipes can contact me via PM.
Thanks! Happy New Year everyone.
Sounds reasonable. So what is this, a full set? Half set?
The set is a 3/4 set, and the mounts are boxwood/brass. I’mn sure there would be some flexibility regarding the # of keys on the chanter and such.
Precisely! Thanks for posting the photo.
Only a matter of time before CNBC starts running a tickertape across the bottom of its screen showing the latest results from the uilleann pipe futures secondary market.
This is a nice opportunity for one interested in shortening the wait for a set from Andreas Rogge though I suspect the wait might shorten from more like 4 years to 2 years.
I’m sure that once you’ve bought Skip’s place in line, you could negotiate to alter the original order with Rogge. He hasn’t actually started to build the set yet, so there’s lots of room for negotiation once you’ve purchased your place in line.
djm
I don’t think we’re there quite yet, though that is a humorous take on it.
Although my evidence may be anecdotal, I seem to see more beginners selling off pipes due to waning interest in playing them.
Although my evidence may be anecdotal, I seem to see more beginners selling off pipes due to waning interest in playing them.
That may be true but I want to clarify that this instance has nothing at all to do with a beginner losing interest.
In fact, Skipjam, aka Skip Cleavinger, is on track to become one of the finest American Pipers you’ll ever hear. He has recorded extensively as a session musician and also toured on numerous occasions with several bands and performing artists. He has accomplished on the Uilleann pipes in 4 or so years what it takes a lifetime for most to achieve. I have known him for 1.5 years and am astounded at the evolution of his piping over that short period of time. He soaks up everything that he hears and is seemingly able to employ new techniques with the grace and fluidity expected by one who has spent many more years piping. His hands are majestic and illustrate economy of movement, deliberation, and most exquisite timing. Watching him play the beehive set last eve was truly magical and most rewarding. I was able to, at least in my mind, see a clear distinction between what I have come to view and am now willing to separate as “technique” and “expression” in piping. Keep your eyes peeled as you will hear much more from this fine individual and most excellent piper.
While selling a virtual set was identified as a fraud and killed off by eBAY, I wish that I had thought of selling off virtual spots in the various pipemaker’s queue’s.
So, contact me via PM for great spots in Wooff’s, Froment’s, Rogge’s queue’s. I’ll need money up front and will contact you in about 4-10 years when your expedited place in the queue comes up. If I get enough virtual queue orders, you can contact me at my Cayman Islands location.
I will be taking Skips place in Rogge waiting list.
I have emailed Rogge about this and hopefully he can change the set Skip ordered to a D full set plumwood brass boxwood Lefthanded without D chanter and bellows. Also get C plumwood chanter brass boxwood.
Bye for now
Didn’t I see this on an episode of ‘Seinfeld’ ? (without the Caymans reference) 
So, Skip, since as Glands states you’re a darn good piper, and I believe him, what’s with passing up on the Rogge? Unless this is personal… have you maybe got your hands on a Wooff instead?
Welcome to the ever curious pipers forum!
Close… no cigar though elbogo
Padge.
Are you eluding to an ‘opening’ where books are closed?
'tis interesting how assumptions are made on this list based on limited information. The human mind is an incredibly dangerous thing at times.
Skip noted above the problem with the exchange rate. I think the changes in relative value of the currencies to be exchanged would result in any one of us in Amerikay questioning whether it would be worthwhile to invest in a set that one would need to pay Euro for at the moment. The proposed set has been devalued, to a US customer at least, by the currency there…my dollar still purchases well here. Further, Skip has a Gallagher C chanter and is not in need of a Rogge C set any longer. If he needs a Cn set for recording purposes for the time being here in town then he knows where to come to borrow one for the day.
Not that its anybody’s business but I do know that the set that Skip was going to receive years ago is owned by someone else…Skip has been on “the list” and surely on the K&Q radar screen a long time…he’s waited a number of years with great patience. There are several of us on the list for nearly half a decade or so still in anticipation of great pipes from Koehler and Quinn. So, don’t get your panties ruffled and make assumptions that would be deleterious to the nature of agreements between parties involved…especially when somebody receives a set of pipes and you didn’t know they were listed.
I’d have to say that, in today’s climate, if I were a pipemaker of the stature of Koehler & Quinn, G Woof, etc., that I’d not have an open wait list. I’d make pipes for people I wanted to based on a number of different parameters that I’d establish in advance of agreeing to do a set. Why should these fellas labor and create instruments for just anybody. Sure, one man’s, or woman’s, money is as good as anothers but why should the expert pipemaker be accessible equally to all customers. If they don’t like the way you look, smell, or play, or the way you have taken care of your set based on its appearance and how you throw it in your case at tionols, or what you’ve written on the internet, then they should be able to tell you to take a hike and find another maker. David Quinn and I once discussed the notion that he has crafted far more sets than one hears about or sees publicly, and that many of the customers of the late 70’s and 80’s have never been heard from since taking delivery. That means there are probably more in boxes in attics, deep closets, and basements than any one of us would care to imagine. Hire “pipe finder McGuire” (meant endearingly) to dig 'em up if you want a K&Q set! Meanwhile, I believe these guys should not make pipes for just anybody who signs up if a list were to open 'cause word is out that they are the best makers. If they did, some of the greatest pipes ever made would end up in closets. With all that said, I suppose that I should have kept my fingers in my pockets before I receive my C# set and the other sets I hope to obtain one day. I imagine that Mr. Woof, whom I respect for his work and contributions, would never make me a set because I’ve probably been percieved as a less than deserving character of sorts…and maybe I am such…fair play to him. I can only hope that Koehler and Quinn will craft future sets for me 'cause they would want to do so based on my qualifying in some way and not 'cause I am “on” their “list.”
