Rudall & Rose 3415 for sale.
Large hole, 8 key, concert pitch.
Cocus Wood and Sterling silver.
Original Rudall & Rose case (newer than the flute), and additional barell made last year.
Since this flute has been overhauled, re-padded about 3 years ago… it has been playing extremely well. Ive gigged it and recorded with it alot in the last few years. This flute is ready to go, needs no work what so ever done to it. Gig/session/recording ready.
Original barell has two cracks that have been repaired fully. However, I had an additional barell made so I could play the flute alot, without putting strain/exess moisture on original barell.
Very dynamic flute, and plays brilliantly in low, 2nd and 3rd octave.
Sadly, a reluctant sale.
Serious enquiries please PM me. More pics, sounds and info available.
Yes, a very reasonable price! Especially since it is not mentioned
Quite a bargain really, come to think of it.
And if you are lucky enough not to have to use $$ it is a real steal of a price
The barrel shouldn’t cost more than $300, max. I’m not sure what refurbishing would cost, or what that entails exactly. Repadding shouldn’t cost more than a couple of hundred dollars, unless the pads were handmade original type purse-pads.
If you look closely there is a peculiarity about one of the finger holes. I asked the seller if the third hole had been re-tuned but I’ve no answer yet.
It looks like an original case, with a certificate. I assume it came from another flute. I have no idea how much a case like that is worth- perhaps $200?
All in all I doubt whether more than a thousand dollars (£500) went into the work done to the flute, including the case. Let’s assume that it did cost $1,000 for a new barrel, case, and pads. Before the work and the case, and given a cracked tuning barrel, would an old Rudall be worth $5,000?
There’s no blue-book on this sort of flute. “Worth” is peculiar when dealing with a playable antique instrument. If you’ve that kind of money and want an old Rudall in great shape, one that plays well and in tune, then sure it’s worth it. Playable old Rudalls have sold for more.
One sold here for $7,000, no problem, so they have certainly moved out of range of my wallet. I don’t think our U.S. exchange rate is helping matter any.
I see what you mean about LH3 - might be a little beeswax there, which would what, lower the A a little?
OK, a Grinter 8 key is 3,600 dollars. I take it as a given
the Grinter (which I’ve played a good deal) is a good flute.
Brad Hurley is a big fan of the Byrne Rudall, which
I’ve also played and is, I agree with him, a good
flute.
Is a vintage Rudall 8 key, a good one,
going to do something a good deal better? Setting
aside the collector’s interest and simply focusing
on how the flute plays.
Jim, are you really opposed to someone’s asking price?
There’s some cachet to owning an original Rudall. If you just want to play Irish music, though, and use only two octaves, and don’t want to vent Eb, you’d probably be better off with a modern instrument.
I mean, seriously. It’s like asking if a Miró is worth $20M because it looks like a drunk 3rd-grader painted it while high on Ritalin he bought off a 5th-grader. The flute’s a Rudall.
Stuart
Actually, while I like my Miró analogy . . . it’s probably more appropriate to say that it’s like wondering whether or not to buy the landscape by Brueghel the Elder or a photograph of the same scene by Ansel Adams. Heh.
I’m not opposed to anything!
I said earlier in the thread I thought the
price was reasonable.
Sincere questions.
My question was this–how does a good one of these stack up against
a Grinter simply as a musical instrument? This
is a request for info. I know something about
the Grinter. For instance, it plays easily in the
third octave up to the A.
As to your Miro analogy, I simply don’t understand your
fascination with lewd pictures.
As soon as these people broke away from
straightforward representation, they
painted nothing but filth.
I will assume, until someone says otherwise,
that very good, old Rudalls, while they may sometimes be somewhat
superior tonally to contemporary good Rudall-style
flutes (as Dave M said earlier), are more or less
in the same league. The added value flows from
other considerations, e.g. cachet, collectors item,
physical beauty. This is not a complaint.
I would say that is like comparing a Stradivarius violin to a modern violin…
They both play well, but the original has a magic about it…
I wish I could find out what that was! I have even done a cast of a original R&R Embouchure hole to try to copy it, still at a loss to why the flute plays better. So go figure… My Fentum plays as nice though, and I got that for $400.
My Fentum plays as nice though, and I got that for $400.