Rudall & Rose alert! (Pre claw)

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/1221-Rudall-and-Rose-Flute_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ013QQitemZ230003122416QQrdZ1#la-image-1

But look at their estimated price PLUS a 22.5% buyer’s premium. Plus taxes and packing and shipping, and they won’t even SHOW you the embouchure repair.

Kevin Krell

Hi Kevin,
How does that work?

You pay the price you win the bid at. You then pay a 22.5% additional commission to the auctioneer.

Kevin Krell

Ow! :swear:

Is that legal? On german Ebay, an auction like that would get closed in no time.

Edit: Yes, should look at the page before asking… :boggle:
Strange proceedings.

maybe it just never crossed someone’s mind that some folks just might want to see the repair or maybe the repair is so beautiful, they want to surprise the buyer.

Maybe everyone should have their own personal VAT. AARGH!

Kind of makes you wonder what the flute looks like… For a flute that will go for $2,000 +++ you would think they would have spent another $2 and posted more photos!
I woould like to see the leather case also…

e-mail and ask for pics??

He must have read C&F, as now he has photos.
Once again I am a couple of $$$$ short, but it looks like a nice fixer upper!

Never, ever ignore the power and influence of Chiff and Fipple. We are vigilant. :smiley:

The all powerful!

FYI
Just found out the Rudall & Rose has a serial # 1187, a fairly early one. So that would make it around 1830.

Looks like Patrick Olwell nabed the R&R for around $2,700 by my reckoning…

i backed out of the bidding, otherwise either Patrick or I would be paying way too much for that flute.

Ya, it kind of becomes counter productive at that point…
Dave, do you think that is a good price?

good and “fair” are different things, of course.

The flute has a head crack. I think they misdescribed the band at the embouchure as a repair to the crack. I think it is a regular band as many Rudalls had for people allergic to cocus wood.
That just makes repairing it very tough, though I’m sure P.O. will do a supreme job.

I thought $2700 too much money (adding in the VAT and the buyer’s premium, etc, etc) for the flute’s general condition.
But if it’s a player and in good shape, fully restored it should easily fetch more.

It happens on these biddings, sometimes.
I just bought a pratten whose price was driven upward by someone who wanted it, but didn’t want to finish the deal. Cost me top dollar because of it.
That’s why I didn’t drive the price – and now glad I didn’t since it’s Patrick – since I wasn’t wedded to having it. I’m sure Patrick would have slipped back had I gone one more 100-lb increment.

That rudall is one of their less expensive models, one could tell that at a glance, nothing great about that stick, and only some of them played as a rudall should, i have played about a dozen of that model and i can tell you
that out of that many only two played decent, Josie Mc Dermot played one of those which sounded alright when i tried it,
I would like to say againn what i have been saying for a long time that not all
Rudall & Rose and Boosey Pratten flutes are good players, actually some are very poor playing flutes, to buy one of these flutes you need to have a chance to play it and see how it sounds and how it suits you, otherwise its a waste of your money,

I agree that it would be helpful to play the flute first. I think Patrick can tweak it to make it a nice player though. I imagine that with a nwe head joint it would make most of those poor playing R&R’s into nice players.