R&R #2041 on Ebay

…and no reserve, should be interesting to see what it goes for (complete with the label signatures of Mr Rudall and Rose)

“in good condition with no scratches or repairs at all” (apart from the big chunk out of it and the cracked barrel)

“box in outstanding condition” (apart from the eschucheon and lock).

Wrong date of manufacture. Is that a metal head tuning indicator sticking out there?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/380321409114

He also has a Boosey Pratten perfected and a Rudall Carte (key system)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk//380321407107

He appears to have muddled up parts of his blurbs - mostly same info for the R&R 8-key as for the RC&Co. 1867, some of it clearly inappropriate.

mmmm
crack in the head through the embouchure.
it does’t looks so good … the wood looks a bit worn… strange.
but is a Rudall so nothing to say. it worthy all the money you can spend.

BTW this lucky australian…found three gem flutes and he probably have no clue about it..
I bid that he paid few dollars for all of them.

I think he just has a standard text for all his items (same for the Pratten) and adapts it a bit each time. Everything he’s selling is in ‘perfect’ condition…apart from all the things wrong with them, which are then specified. Nothing Jon couldn’t fix up easily enough I’d have thought.

PS. then again if you want a nice playing Rudall I know Dave Migoya has a few available even if they’re not on Ebay

Having 300 Rudalls will not be enough!
I really like Jon’s work but this is a work for Batman!, Hu! No, I mean Hammy! :slight_smile:

PS
ehi! I’ve manage to remove the extra -“e” in my username!

He says the Boosey has silver keys too, when they’re clearly GS - obviously not an expert, though seems to have had at least some good advice. None of the work needing doing to the R&R looks too bad - at least it is more-or-less all there (loss of the key would be a bad stumbling block). Clearly a R&R with a #2000 series serial no. must be mid-1830s.

I wouldn’t mind betting the cleaning rod/screw-driver with the Boosey is actually a Rudall one (looks like to me) and belongs most likely to the 1867.

He’s certainly picked up a remarkable collection!

He’s certainly picked up a remarkable collection!

Looks like a house clearance business, wouldn’t mind finding those in my attic

Did you note the crack in the body near the long F, along the finger holes?

that’s another problem to fix. obviously a very good restorer will not have problem with all those things.
(except maybe for the crack through the embouchure).

Ah - AUSTRALIA - The land of milk and Rudall’s !?!?!? :slight_smile:

yep, hadn’t noticed the body section crack, the list is lengthening! Makes a bit of a mockery of the language used in the description but good photos, to be fair, so it’s clear enough what’s being sold and what needs doing.

This because we cannot see the rest of the flute… Wooonderful surprises to the buyer!

how do you insure a flute like this for shipping? I want to put my R&R #1364 on ebay but DHL say they won’t ship antiques at all and the Post Office will ship it but won’t insure it

i’d love to know who his “flautist” expert is that says the “surface crack” to the barrels don’t affect the playability. What hogwash.
At least this guy didn’ t have the gaul to put a high reserve. That tempers all the dumbness of the ad.

How to insure? Homeowner’s policies.

I’ve never had an issue insuring any of my flutes for shipping … but cracking isn’t something they’ll insure against. Just theft or loss or breakage. Nobody insures against cracking (except maybe the manufacturer for a short period after it’s made).

All my flutes are insured under my homeowner’s policy. Full value. You never know.

David;

did you tell the shipping company that it (the flute, that is) was an antique?

you don’t have to declare it as anything.
I simply put “old wood flute” on the forms and provide a value with insurance.

So if homeowner’s insurance covers the value, does that mean it’s OK to ship with the insurance on the shipping undervalued for what the homeowner’s insurance would pay? Aren’t duty and taxes figured on the insurance value? Curious minds want to know how this works.
Lewis

Pratten is beating Rudall on price!!!
On bids is a draw though…

ok, R&R 1364 goes on ebay today (5 March) at 1700 UTC, with a caveat that I can’t be responsible for any cracks that occur due to the environmental stress of air freight.

thanks for the advice

There is no requirement to insure anything in shipping, even if covered by homeowner’s insurance. If there are two policies covering an item, obviously just one pays out and the other is subordinate to the leftover amount. Duties and taxes are figured on the declared value, which is quite different than the insured value. You can declare a flute valued at $5,000 yet only insure it for $500.
If you try to bypass the duty and declare a $5,000 flute at only $500 and something happens to it, the insurance company is less likely to pay off on the insured value (assuming you had it at $5,000) because of the lower declared value.

Then again, you can insure anything at any value, as long as the insurance company accepts it.

either way…i’ve had little issue since i’ve had no claims in the 15+ years buying/selling flutes.