Ohh my gosh, is it me or ShannaQuay is way too expensive?

Whistle
21

On 2002-09-14 22:27, brownja wrote:
Maybe Steve would do better to price his merchandise exclusive of shipping and then add those charges on to the total sale. OTOH, some people might prefer his current pricing scheme. It’s really his perogotive to choose what he thinks is best and then let the market decide.
Compared to some of the tripe that’s posted here, the occaisonal commercial post is a breath of fresh air.
Regards,
jb

I hope he doesn’t change a thing. I know exactly what I will have to pay for my whistles and shipping because it is combined. Sometimes you have to search for the shipping and that is a pain in the OOPs.

Also if Steve wouldn’t have mentioned to the forum about the free whistles on his site I would have 5 fewer whistles! Think of the WhOa Whoas I would be experiencing now!!!

I say Poo Poo to naysayers!!!

Edited for punctuation corrections.

~Live Well, Love Much, Laugh Often~

[ This Message was edited by: chattiekathy on 2002-09-14 23:21 ]

22

On 2002-09-14 23:19, chattiekathy wrote:
I say Poo Poo to naysayers!!!

Well, whatever the intent, this thread inspired me to order an O’Briain Eb along with another D (my second one). Methinks Steve need not worry about the naysayers.

23

Hmmm, you see, I generated one sell… You owe me one, Steve. As for changing the name of my thread, hmmmm, I think some people might be dreaming in here. But it seems that anyway Steve doesnt have anything to be afraid of, 99% of members on the board seem to love his buisness so much. I still think his stuff his way too expensive, and I wouldnt have went that far if I didnt get such stupid replies as changing the name of my post. Duh, I think his stuff is WAY too expensive, and I still THINK so. I was in Dingle in august 2001 and I’ve bought a D O’Briain (sorry for the spelling, can’t get it right) for about 20 EUROs. Anyway, the logical outcome of this is that if I’m in Canada, I should buy from the whistleshop if I want to have better prices, as simple as that.

24

After reading all this, I thought I’d take a look at Steve’s prices, and lo and behold, there are no longer links to Shanna Quay on the Chiff Links page, or the “buying whistles on the internet” link. When did that happen?

25

Well, it’s

http://www.shannaquay.com/

Dunno about the link. I’m still quite puzzled about the full Generation set, the price difference is so big. I never got a clear answer on that (beside being asked to change the name of my thread). Euro and US money are almost on the same level, US money being a little more valued.

26

Azalin:

I see you think my post is stupid. Perhaps that’s because it draws conclusions from stated facts rather than from impressions or feelings. Perhaps you think it’s stupid that I take the time to use proper spelling, punctuation and grammar. Probably you’re just calling it stupid because you’re unwilling to admit you’ve done something dumb.

I’m not a fan of Steve, or of Shanna Quay, as I stated in my post. I don’t know Steve and I have never done business with him. His prices are posted on his site. That they are in range with the competition has been verified. You have been proven wrong. It’s that simple. That you continue to argue just suggests that you have some other agenda regarding Steve and his business. So tell us what your real problem is or just shut up already!

27

On 2002-09-14 22:27, brownja wrote:

Compared to some of the tripe that’s posted here, the occaisonal commercial post is a breath of fresh air.

Tripe is good stuff, but it is a lot of work to prepare. Anybody eaten carabao tripe?

28

jim_mc,

Well, if it can make you feel better and make you able to go to sleep, then yeah, I’ve been proven wrong… Now, about my spelling, why don’t you use any other criterias, like my country and my name, while you’re at it. Stupid you’re saying? That would be a darn compliment…

— go to sleep here ----

But the truth is that I really don’t see your point, I don’t even know how I’ve been proven wrong, and I would happily admit I’ve been proven wrong if someone would just give me true facts beside the 3-4 items Steve might be selling at a good price. I think this shop’s prices are too high, and instead of telling that my spelling is wrong and that I should censor what I’m writing, maybe you should start using your brain. That’s my point.

29

Geeze, I looked at the thread, and it drew too much attention already. I’ve got my answer as to why would people buy from ShannaQuay, and as to why I wouldnt buy from there. The “censorship” people are just showing up so it’s time to let go, as usual. Let’s whistle, and continue the quest for a good Eb!

30

No one is advocating censorship. I’m simply encouraging you to tell us your real problem with Shanna Quay. Some of their prices are higher than other places, some are lower, and some are nearly identical. What’s the big deal with that? The Whistle Shop’s prices are high on some items, too. So are Tayberry’s, and so are Lark in the Morning’s. Look around for the best price on the item you need, and buy from that place. On some items, that place will be Shanna Quay, and on some it will be someplace else.

SO WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM, AZ?

As far as calling into question your spelling and grammar, you called me stupid, not the reverse. I was just pointing out that it seems odd that a person who can’t spell or write in complete coherent sentences would call another person stupid. I hadn’t taken note at that time that you were ESL. Forgive me for criticizing you on those issues, but I still think you’re being deliberately obtuse on the Shanna Quay pricing thing.

And don’t worry about me getting to sleep. I’m jacked up on Dunkin’ Donuts coffee and I’ll be up all night.

31

I’m still puzzled as to why Shanna Quay’s link is no longer on C&F. Dale?

32

On 2002-09-15 02:35, blackhawk wrote:
I’m still puzzled as to why Shanna Quay’s link is no longer on C&F. Dale?

\\\\|||///////////////////
\BREAKER 1-9\|DO YOU READ? OVER|||
|||||||WASHINGTON/|IRVING\\\
\\\TRUE IDENTITY///|||||||||||||
^%@$!&(~-/:;][,.#&^%!)@)_\\\
||||||||||||||||||||GEOFFREY/CRAYON|||
##@@%^&^*&%%##@@^!!$%^|||||||||||||
|||/////||||NOT VICE-VERSA\\\
##@@%^&^&%%##@@^!!$%^|||||||||||||
^^^^^^^^^^^^^##@@~~~~%^&^&%%##@@^!!$%^
???SPECIAL FOOD???TUPPERWARE++UNITS++

33

Are you in a hurry to get to 600 posts, Aaron?

34

On 2002-09-14 19:58, StevePower wrote:

Peter:
No one in Ireland is selling the O’Briain with a pouch (that costs me 5 Euro), except me and my price also inlcudes shipping, as mentioned. By the way, if you saw the O’Briain at Listowel and Willie week, on the street, then it’s a bit unfair to compare those prices with a shop price (just guessing).

If you object to commercial postings (and I know that’s the real root of your objections to me) then why not just say so. Instead of trying to ruin my business? Oh, and you do get facts wrong - remember me quoting Paddy Keenan’s website at you?

Steve

I saw the O Briain improved on two occasions at stalls iduring the Willie Clancy week and in two [possibly three but not sure about the last one] shops in Dingle in the second week of august. Non of these are places I would associate with discount prices. The whistle was consistently priced at 20 Euro, that is the only thing I said here. If you think that is ruining your business that is hardly my fault nor is it my intention. This discussion was about pricing, I merely offered a comparison i.e. that on ALL occasions I saw an O Briain whistle for sale it was sold at the aforementioned price. Offcourse the price of delivery should be added and if you add another fiver for the free pouch the pricing isssue is crystal clear and I cannot see how that could harm your business.

I thought you’d come up with the Keenan issue again, you didn’t take that one well did you. OK, I let that be at the time because I thought it not worth going on about. At the time you quoted Keenan talking to you after a concert, not the website.
[for those who missed this episode, Steve referred to Paddy Keenan first as a member of De Dannan and after as a founding member of the Bothy Band, I corrected him on both counts, because, firstly PK was never in De Dannan [which ofcourse was a simple slip Steve made, I simply took the Mickey but he didn’t take it that way] secondly, as far as I know Peter Browne was the original piper of the band that became known as the Bothy Band, only to be replaced by PK when they turned full time pro.

As far as I know it is a fairly wellknown fact Keenan was not the original piper of [what became]the Bothy band. If you walk up to the shelves of your shop and take out ‘The Blooming Meadows’ [if you stock it at all], by Fintan Vallely nad Charlie Piggot, open it at page 109, in the middle of the chapter on Keenan, you’ll read that

he was stand in for Peter Browne in the group Monroe with Michael O Dommnhail and Mick Hanly. Playing gigs with Tony MacMahon Paddy Glacken and Triona ni Domhnaill,[..]which later became the Bothy Band

If you listen to a French made lp from 1973 which features the Castle Ceili Band and a group calling themselves 1691, you’ll find 1691 are Triona ni, Matt Molloy and Tommy Peoples with singer Liam Weldon, they play essentially the basic Bothy repertoire, arrangements for some of the sets are already largely in place. Their piper was Peter Browne. My point at the time was that this group of people was playing for a while. The Bothy Band was essentially formed and playing well before they recorded their first lp in 1975. Paddy Keenan only joined them at the later stages and throughout the early period Peter Browne was the piper of the group. Try to find fault with that.


[edited for typos and a bit of clarity]







[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2002-09-15 09:37 ]

35

[quote]
On 2002-09-15 04:06, Peter Laban wrote:
I saw the O Briain improved on two occasions at stalls iduring the Willie Clancy week and in two [possibly three but not sure about the last one] shops in Dingle in the second week of august. Non of these are places I would associate with discount prices.[quote]

Market stalls are not known for discount prices? Really?

\

[quote]If you walk up to the shelves of your shop and take out ‘The Blooming Meadows’ [if you stock it at all], by Fintan Vallely nad Charlie Piggot,[quote]

Yes I do. Probably at a highly inflated price (to match your ego).

Dale:

Have the links to my site been deleted because I complained about this thread? I am aware that you told me that you did not find the thread offensive and that you would not ask for the (accusatory) name tobe changed. But, you did not tell me that I was being penalised for complaining. Do we have some bias creeping in here? At Least you’re not sitting on the fence!

Steve

36

[Edited to specify that this message is in answer to Steve’s post from the other thread that says that I’m being unreasonable in the subject. Steve’s post seems to imply that he wants to take some legal action against me, but maybe I didnt have enough Dunkin Donuts coffee and I’m not getting the true sens of it]

Steve,

Wow, maybe I’m tired again this morning, but you are threatening to sue me??? Let me explain a few things to you. A few months ago I created a thread about the fact that I thought the Copeland Low D was too expensive at 420$ or so. Well, it’s strange that at that point no one said that I was trying to be hurtful to their buisness. It’s true that I don’t like you, but in this case it’s just a coincidence as I’ve been having these thoughts about Shanna Quay for a few months now, but some events lead me to want to know more about why Shanna Quay seemed so expensive, especially when I knew that people bought a lot from your buisness. The title of the thread is provocative, maybe, but far, far from being unreasonable (for the moderator-wannabes).

“Ohh my gosh, is it me or ShannaQuay is way too expensive?” is a call for answers, not an unreasonable way to hurt your buisness. An unreasonable way to hurt your buisness might be something like “ShannaQuay is a rip-off, it’s crap and way too expensive!”. Now you’re talking unreason!

I’m french canadian, maybe that’s why you seem to question my phrasing?

Steve, I just don’t know why you didnt leave the thread alone, you and the other “I-play-the-moderator” dude, as people were actually replying intelligently to the thread saying that they liked your buisness, and that maybe the good quality service made up for a few things, etc. You had to show up and tell me that I was trying to hurt your buisness, at that point I think you can count yourself lucky that I still managed to be polite.

My biggest point was the Generation set which sells for 30$ at the whistleshop and 80 euro at your shop. You never really replied to this one, you and your moderator wannabe, and if some people were planning on buying the set from your shop and found it was 30$US cheaper (after shipping) at the whistleshop or elsewhere then that’s great for them, as I’m much more preoccupied by the buyers’ well being than a shop owner’s profit making.

A brass Generation on your site lists for 12 Euro including shipping, and it’s about 4.95$US at the whistleshop. Now, from my initial understanding, if I buy 6 whistles from your shop, it’s gonna be 72EURO including shipping, and about 40$US from the whistleshop including shipping. There might be something that’s false in this little math quizz, but if it’s the case just explain instead of threatening to sue me, as for a very average buyer like me, your website makes it very hard to do simple maths and understand why you’re not that expensive.

If the link to your site has been deleted for whatever reason, don’t blame me. Blame yourself.

*** I AM NOT *** going to change the title of my thread, and I actually replied in this thread to push it up.

Let’s go Steve, make it very expensive for me, as you stated in the other thread.

[ This Message was edited by: Azalin on 2002-09-15 08:52 ]

37

On 2002-09-15 05:44, StevePower wrote:

Market stalls are not known for discount prices? Really?

If you walk up to the shelves of your shop and take out ‘The Blooming Meadows’ [if you stock it at all], by Fintan Vallely nad Charlie Piggot,

Yes I do. Probably at a highly inflated price (to match your ego).

Market stalls [or any other outlet for that matter] during Willie weeks and fleadh are, as I am sure you know all too well, not exactly havens of low price merchandise.

I can’t see why, each time again you make these things personal and have a dig at me or whoever questions your pricing or your marketing strategies.

[edited the usual typos]

[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2002-09-15 09:07 ]

38

I deleted my link to Steve’s site last night, after I received an email from him demanding I delete this thread and assuring me that he would seek legal advice if I failed to do so. Bluntly, it made me mad as hell. Although I have rarely responded as he wanted to any of his requests to intervene on the Board when he felt he was being treated unfairly, I have otherwise been courteous and friendly to Steve. (In one of his emails to me last night he said that he agreed I have.) I feel undeserving of his threats and as I said, pissed off. So, I asked myself "why am I continuing to provide free advertising (the link and the positive write-up) to someone who is threatening legal action against me and is being ill-mannered to boot?

I’m perfectly aware of the fact that Steve has done well with customer service and that is illustrated by the content of this thread. I’d like to put the link back up and that’s probably the most mature thing to do. But, I’m angry, so I won’t until I receive an apology from Steve–and not one that reads “I apologise
for it, but I do feel it was justified.”

As the majority of whistle vendors have learned, whenever a negative post appears about their business the best thing to do is post a calm and friendly response setting the record straight or whatever.

Because I’ve got no ax to grind at all about Steve’s business, I have no intention of working against it or speaking ill of it. I just don’t intend to help someone who would treat me in this way (unless they have a mental illness, in which case it is my job).

I don’t plan to delete this thread but I call on everyone to use restraint, play fair, check your facts, and avoid abusive language and personal attacks.

Incidentally, I am writing this because I got another email from Steve requesting that I explain my reasons for deleting the link to his shop.

39

If Steve will give permission I’ll post all of our email correspondence about this thread.

40

On 2002-09-15 09:55, DaleWisely wrote:
I don’t plan to delete this thread but I call on everyone to use restraint, play fair, check your facts, and avoid abusive language and personal attacks.

Well said.

I would like to add I have no bone to pick with Steve allthough he does sometimes irritate me slighlty when all he can come up with are contributions about himself and his business.
In the past I have had to deal with a personal attack from him in a PM, which he later explained as ‘wishing to avoid a public brawl’. I feel he was going for the person again here, and I don’t think he looks good for it.