www.greenlinnet.com
they’ve got a special again, cds for 4$, they’re trying to get rid of some old stock. Ordered SillyWizzard (not to great, but hey, just 4bucks) and Deanta’s “Deanta” (very good)
cheers, amar.
Amar…it’s cassettes for 4$, CDs 12.50$. I think .
Trisha
not true, check it out: http://www.greenlinnet.com/shopping/search_list.cfm?categoryid=8
I refuse to purchase anything from Green Linnet until the lawsuit over royalties is settled.
i know what you mean missy…i did it anyway.
There really are four pages of CD’s for $4.00 each.
It’s oh so tempting.
One thing I didn’t like was they claim the $4.00 CD’s had the Bothy Band in there. I didn’t see it. Maybe on the compilation albums.
I love The Bothy Band.
Mike
maybe they just haven’t got it -anymore-. I ordered a Silly Wizzard album for 4bucks too, it’s not in the list anymore.
But Deanta is, it’s my 2nd Deanta album, they really are good, Mary Dillon sings with an absolutly crystal clear voice.
Until Green Linnet settles with the artist who’s work they have taken without payment why would you put any money in their pockets.
If someone steals your car would I buy it because I think is a good deal.
It a two way street by accepting that “good deal” are you making yourself part of the problem. In the future can I trust you when I see that you have so little regard for the rights of others.
I don’t believe you know me well enough to say that I have no regard for the rights of others, eventhough I made a purchase at greenlinnet.
all I know is that you looked for the bottom price now mater what he cost to others. That seems to speak volumes by itself.
The fact that you choose to advertise what I regard would regard as a personal failure would seem to indicate a problem of judgment in more than one area.
My point in speaking up is to help you work on that, provide you with food for thought as well as a little moral indignation on my part for your actions.
What a weird company. They are like “remaindering” their own creations (the compilations). Sorta like walking thru Walmart or Target where they have baskets of stuff and you get so confused you buy things you may already have, because they are on sale. I think I have four different cuts of Altan’s “Windmill” on four different compilations before I wised up.
Missy and Wizzer’s points are well taken.
Yeah, but a wee bit different from each other.
Missy says what she won’t do herself, because (etc.)
This I understand; myself, this issue has had me look twice at the label of records, which I usually never did. Now am I right to react so? I’m not sure, for there’s a dilemma: if I buy, maybe the artist won’t get paid; if I don’t, then I’m sure he won’t. And if the company gets bankrupt, what will it eventually pay the artists with? Putting the owner in jail may content the bystanders, but won’t feed the artists. So? I just don’t know.
Wizzer takes a pause of righteousness and agresses Amar, assuming way too much on who is Amar and his motives. Worse, he insists on giving him lessons. To do this, he takes a completely biased comparison with a “hot” car. It’s holy crap, your holiness:
- There’s a case, and a lawsuit pending. Until it’s judged, such attitudes reek of the lynch mob.
- If the artists win their suit, they’ll be finally paid for their work, and that will include part of the proceeds of purchases like Amar’s–royalties are royalties.
- For the time being, Amar didn’t take any money from the artists; now he may be making the sellers’ case worse, is all.
- If it’s a question of delay in the payment, just make sure you’re equally militant on the boycott of every other business which takes time before reluctantly paying its subcontractors. The government, for instance… or your Internet provider, or software publisher, etc. And don’t forget to vote for Nader :roll:
- everyone has had dirty pants; think of it before insulting Amar because he tried and save a few bucks. Make sure you checked the origin and “moral chain” of whatever YOU buy. And clean your computer thoroughly, checking the fonts, etc.
5b) if you still feel like proving your moral superiority over anyone, please try again, but with some humour… Although both attitudes are pretty much antinomic.
The more likely scenario I think is if the artist win their suit, Green Linnet will go bankrupt. Realistically therefore the artists will use the courts to force Green Linnet to do an accounting. That will show that they are owed lots of money and that Greenlinnet doesn’t have it and won’t have it since the “Celtic” boom has levelled off and you’re not going to pay off debt by selling your stuff for $4/CD.
So, the artist will settle for what they can get, including the rights to their recordings. That will mean the end for Green Linnet as we know it, and it will probably mean that many of the CDs (like Cherish the Ladies) will be distributed over the net or other sub-optimal channels and stand in danger of going out of print.
About Wizzer’s indignation: I can understand it and share it some extent. Problem is you are harming the artists as well as Green Linnet by not buying the CDs (even when they get no commission, there is an interest in having the stuff out there, listened to). The moral thing I guess would be to buy from Green Linnet at $4/CD and to send some money for each CD directly to the artists. But would I go to the trouble? Probably not, I’ll admit.
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ok - since I seemed to have started this - let me clarify a bit:
I won’t buy from Green Linnet because of the lawsuit - that they were not paying royalties to their “performers”. I HAVE bought from some of the individual performers (bought directly from Altan at a festival last year).
I don’t usually buy compilations BECAUSE I’m always concerned if the original artist will get anything. If I know the particular company does pay, I may do so.
As for the statement that if companies like Green Linnet go down the tubes and the only place you’ll be able to buy is the internet, I agree, and I don’t actually think that is such a bad thing. As stated, I have problems believing that most artist get “what is owed” by the bigger recording companies (and you DON’T want to know my opinions of ASCAP and BMI - Harry Fox, as far as I can tell, is upfront about pay outs). I tend to buy ALL of my recordings directly from the artists - either at festivals or over the internet.
Sure, I love the popularity that Celtic music has seen over the past 10 or so years. But I was “Celtic” before Celtic was cool (or before Michael Flately!). And I’ll continue to be long after.
I have so many CD’s that have been bought at festivals. Directly from the artist. Now - I realize that not everyone can do that - but then, the internet and home sites are the next best thing.
But that is just me and my beliefs. If you want to purchase from Green Linnet, or whomever, go for it. At the most, I may buy a resale from them (either at a place like Half Price Books or eBay) cuz Green Linnet already has the money, and won’t get more. Otherwise, I try if at all possible to buy directly from the artist.
(or trade one of our own CD’s if they’d like!!! )
Missy
Green Linnet is gone for all practical purposes. The courts will decide that when the case come to a close, and that must be getting closer since the prices they are offering are only there to clear out inventory. Let hope that the artist themselves take over the equipment and operate the business in a fair and open manner. The could not do any worse that has been done already.
We should be only mildly concerned about Green Linnets and other recording companies future but greatly concerned about the artist that will eventually be forced to settle for pennies on the dollar. It is the years of lost payments, the money they were banking on for their continued growth, children’s college funs, and on and on.
How will they cope will this deception by Green Linnet, will it curtail their carriers or force them to travel a different path.
The future of the music is not in the recording companies but in the artist and their talent.
We need to foster that talent and stand up for those with the gifts to make us all so happy. We need to stand being those individuals working to perfect their art and putting aside the easy life of home and the 9 to 5 job to seek their future on the road.
And as a closing note I have leaned my nephew will be flying out of Iraq on the 17 of March. This will truly be a gooood St Patrick Day.
I share your concern about the artists but don’t see why you are down on ‘other record companies.’ There are some straight dealers out there and people who have devoted their lives to bringing us music we would never have heard without their dedication. Think of Chris Strachwitz and Arhoolie Records. It’s curious how much American music owes to immigrants like Strachwitz who discovered and created markets for musics nobody else would touch. So let’s have some fairness and honesty please. Artists for the most part need record companies to make profits in order to get adequate exposure. And some independant record companies marketing minority interest music are virtually charities. It’s absurd to talk as though they were all like the majors.
You know, I’ve never seen this confirmed in print and there’s no mention of it on GL’s web site so it may not be true, but I heard last year from a reliable source that Green Linnet has been sold to a large UK-based record company and is now a subsidiary rather than an independent label. The person who told me about it has been touring and recording with a GL recording artist for the past few years so I assume it’s accurate info…has anyone else heard about this? He described it as a bailout deal, as GL was in dire financial straits. He told me about it almost a year ago; I don’t know if it was a done deal or if it fell through.
Oh, and I’ll second what Wombat said. There are some great record companies out there – I’ve heard good things about Compass Records, and a friend of mine in the record business says that Putumayo is famous for its fair and ethical dealings with artists.
Pardon me for being dense if this was already mentioned, but I’m curious.
Lunasa (and many many other irish bands I love, flook etc.) never really make it as far as California in their tours, so buying their cd’s at concerts is kinda out of the question.
So, what will put the most money in the pockets of the musicians?
Buy off their webpage, I’d say.