Green Linnet lawsuit?

A couple of years ago, a group of artists (including Joanie Madden) sued Green Linnet over lack of royalty payments
http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?p=154941#154941

The last I heard, Joanie and a few other artists ended up in binding arbitration due to contract clauses, but that others stayed on with a lawsuit.

Anyone ever know what the ultimate outcome was? Was there one?

I was going to buy some CDs today, and remembered the lawsuit. I really would prefer to go through alternate channels (like buying CDs from Lunasa’s website) if Green Linnet has not been held accountable and made amends.

I just did a search on Google and our periodical/newspaper databases and there is nothing after 2003 mentioned about the Green Linnet Five and the lawsuit.

MarkB

You might email Joanie (through the CTL website) and ask for an update. She’s been very forthcoming with information about the lawsuit.

Susan

Good idea :slight_smile: I just thought it’d be quicker to get an answer here if someone knew..

I had been wondering about that too, but couldn’t find anything other than “circumstantial evidence”.
Lunasa did celebrate their liberation from their GL contract (as per their website).
Also Niamh Parsons (one of my favourite singers) has recorded a new album. On her website she writes that it is the last of a 5 album deal with GL. I don’t suppose she would write that if she was keen to renew.

If appropriate, please share your findings Greg.

Will do…I haven’t heard back from the CTLadies email address…but I’m sure they’re quite busy people :slight_smile:

In the meantime, OssianUSA is run by good folks (Charlie and Mary Lou), and they have about everything one could want in CDs, DVDs, etc.


http://www.ossianusa.com/

And if they don’t have it, they can usually get it.

djm

Just got word from Joanie Madden this morning They have not settled with Green Linnet as of yet. So I’ll be doing my holiday shopping elsewhere.

By the way, you can enter an artist or CD here, and find out which company released it: http://www.magnetbox.com/riaa/

I’m personally staying away from anything that says “green linnet” on it.

Thanks Wanderer for the update, I to will follow the same action in the future.

MarkB

I won’t. Green Linnet has too much good stuff on it to ignore. The artists will win or lose their case based on its merits.

djm

From the site provided by Wanderer:

Why is it important to know if an album was released by an RIAA member or not?

That’s possibly a fairly long answer, but just the highlights of the RIAA’s practices involve price-fixing, blaming its poor financial state on unfounded digital piracy claims (and in turn, blaming and suing its own consumers), lobbying for changes that hinder technological innovation and change copyright laws, underpaying the artists it represents, invading personal privacy to enforce copyrights, and dismantling entire computer networks just because of their ability (of their users) to share copyrighted files. (Feel free to visit the RIAA and Boycott-RIAA.com to learn more!)

In order to successfully and efficiently support who you like (or not support who you don’t like), you need to have information immediately available to know who is who. The RIAA Radar works in two ways: if you’re looking to stop buying RIAA releases, it will help tell you what albums to avoid (or purchase secondhand); if you are looking for new music or new alternatives, it works to promote non-RIAA releases by providing similar RIAA-free albums to almost any RIAA release, and RIAA-free popularity charts for several genres in order to showcase viable alternatives.

…but I suspect that even if they win, they will not get what they are due.

Maybe, maybe not. I am more interested in older recordings, than newer “celtic” groups anyway, and for that stuff I wouldn’t cut myself off if Green Linnet had stuff I wanted, e.g. Seamus Ennis’ 40 Years of Piping.

djm

There are two sides to every story. Green Linnet allegedly owes royalties, dollars, etc. All we can do is let it ‘play out’!

Exactly.

djm

Hee hee. I got a threatening letter, in fact, from the RIAA. So did my employer at the time, and the employers of all my coauthors. And the program chair of the conference we submitted to, and his employer. Poor guy almost lost his job because of that.

What amazes me is that they weren’t objecting to us breaking their security system so much as describing how their system worked. Sometimes security measures are so flimsy that they are compromised merely by telling people about them—like leaving a key under a doormat. And there aren’t many DRM systems that are better, security-wise, than leaving a key under a doormat.

Caj

I"m not quite clear on what RIAA is or does…

… would I be too far off the mark if I described them as being in the “protection business” ?? (wink wink, nudge nudge)

:wink:

The Beatles (Paul, Ringo, the families of John and George) are suing EMI for back royalties - some $53MM.

This is starting to catch some momentum.