The idea of a chromatic whistle and Colin Goldie’s Overton model got a bit too little “press” in my opinion.
Colin offers an extra hole to play any note in the scale desired. Given a person’s 10 fingers and the 11 notes in the total scale, up to an additional 4 notes can be added, with only one needing to be “cross-fingered”.
This has an appeal to a limited audience. But those of us who play the whistle and want the “solid” other notes without half-holing, or who play in other venues (such as I play along with the choir in church, in “non-Irish” keys) like the flexibility.
Loren - Skip Healy makes a 10-hole chromatic F flute, and the finger spread isn’t bad at all. I tried the 10-hole D piccolo, and my fingers are actually too big for it. The switch from 6-hole to 10-hole is actually pretty intuitive and doesn’t take too much practice. I adapted to 10-hole fife in a couple of months.
I’m not sure if Colin or any of you are aware of this, but in order to own a high capacity class 3 whistle (Any whistle with more then eight-tone holes that has the ability to play faster then 85 BPM), first you must get a form 4 from the ATF. Next you need to check with your local Chief law Enforcement Officer to be sure they will sign the form 4 for you.
IF you are lucky they will sign for you. Then you have to send the form back to the ATF and get ready for a wait from anywhere from 4 months, to over a year for the form to be approved.
If all goes well with the form 4, you will need to pay $200 for a transfer fee tax stamp before you make the transaction.
If you want to own a short barreled whistle (Any whistle under 12 inches ) you must register it as a SBW and pay another $200 transfer fee when you buy the whistle. Good Luck.
[ This Message was edited by: DavidSchulz on 2002-08-26 18:58 ]
David…that’s why people buy them in Mexico and sneak them back across the border disguised as part of the vehicle’s smog control equipment. All you need to do is find a “mule”
I built a 11 hole once out of PVC (bottom hole was a double hole) but I alway wondered what they would think if it had been copper and showed up in the postage xray machines.
A whistle is a whistle is a whistle
and a recorder is a recorder and if
want to play a fipple flute that is
chromatic LEARN TO PLAY THE RECORDER
and don’t try and reinvent the
wheel…Smack me upside the head
cause I ain’t ducking!
On 2002-08-27 15:52, Kelhorn Mike wrote:
… and don’t try and reinvent the
wheel…Smack me upside the head
cause I ain’t ducking!
Kelhorn Mike
If I built Overton whistles and one of my customers came in and asked for a ten-hole whistle, I’d build it for him and I wouldn’t tell him to buy a recorder.
On 2002-08-27 15:52, Kelhorn Mike wrote:
A whistle is a whistle is a whistle
and a recorder is a recorder and if
want to play a fipple flute that is
chromatic LEARN TO PLAY THE RECORDER
and don’t try and reinvent the
wheel…Smack me upside the head
cause I ain’t ducking!
Kelhorn Mike
That’s what I like about you, Mike. You tell it like you see it, then you don’t duck.
Bloomfield,
Now this is just my opinion, but
I think you’d be doing that customer
a disservice. Suggesting they learn
to play recorder in my very humble
opinion is giving good advice or
you suggest they buy whistles in
a multitude of keys. One of the
most beautiful things about a whistle
is it’s inherent simplicity. A six-hole
SIMPLE system fipple flute by one
definition. Smack away…
And I say recorders sound like recorders, and whistles sound like whistles…unless they’re made by Susato, in which case they sound like plastic recorders.
So why make a whistle that sounds like a recorder?
Loren
[ This Message was edited by: Loren on 2002-08-27 16:58 ]
I think the question was, why make a whistle that plays like a recorder. Details, I guess.
Mike, who’s smacking? I don’t want a whistle with more holes to confuse me, but I can imagine something with holes the size of Overton whistles is quite different from your basic small-holed recorder thingie.
Well all I can say is that my Overton Modal D/C is just awesome. It plays just like a normal D. But then lets say you have a tune in D that goes down to the C below bottom D? Put down your lower pinky and there it is. Want to put a roll on the bottom D instead of a cran ? How about finger vibrato on the same note? And the F natural thumb hole? Well some of might think that you could just half-hole it eh? Well what about if you want to play the F in a fast reel. Would you be able to throw a roll on it?
Well you can do this and more on the D/C and it sounds like an Overton whistle not a fricking recorder (not that I really have anything against recorders they have their place in Baroque and other styles of music).
Ok side note about recorders. Have you ever heard Carlos Nunez play the recorder? It’s pretty awesome and even makes me start to think about picking one up.
Ok back to the D/C. The other day before I saw this post I was thinking how cool it would be to even have a few more notes available on the D/C. I don’t know why some of you take offense at this idea. Maybe you just don’t like the idea of something different. Or then again maybe you are just a bunch of wankers :roll:
[ This Message was edited by: DavidSchulz on 2002-08-28 00:07 ]
You’re so pathetic with your bizarre need for my attention Bloomfield.
What really surprises me though is that you won’t even do Dale the courtesy of honoring his request, instead you just gotta keep throwing the jabs, like one that precipitated this exchange.
That’s okay nancy boy, I’m just as comfortable counter punching as leading, so keep it up if that’s what get’s your girlish little panties wet. But don’t blame me when Dale calls the fight and tosses us out, just remember, you keep throwing the first punch.
