Whistles in Canada

Hi Folks,

I am planning a 6 week trip to Canada in a few months time and was wanting to include a few whistle stops. Can any of you folk in Canada suggest any sessions, celtic music shops, street performers and even scottish gatherings that may be worth a visit. I will be travelling from Toronto through to Moncton NB and probably around September/October. I know it is a lttle early, but would like to plan a route. In my part of the world, all I get to see is a Generation whistle in a music shop…sum total (not nocking the generation) so anything will be fantastic. I am sad not to be going to the west coast where a great whistle company exists - next time perhaps…

Thanks
Ian

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That’s alot of land buds. Can you maybe give a little more info on what major/minor cities you were planning on visiting, or sites you wanted to see. Are you doing PEI and Nova Scotia?

BTW, look at the City Guide a few forums down, there should be some info there. As a general rule, I think it is safe to say Montreal is the Irish capital of Canada (assuming you are not making the trip out to Newfoundland), while Cape Breton is as close to Scotland as you can get this side of the pond.

Thanks OnTheMoor for replies, I have no real city/town plan at the moment but wanted to plan around some suggestions. I will very likely get to PEI as well as Nova Scotia. My route will be starting in toronto and ending in NB, the in between is what I want to plan. Good to know about Montreal, will definately be making a stop there. Will look at the city guide, forgot about that, thanks.

In this area there are several things that might be worthy of consideration:

Ottawa has a seemingly active Irish music scene.

Kingston likewise: Harp of Tara, a branch of Comhaltas, and the Irish Club.

In Brockville, we have several things going on at different times:

  • a session once per month, 2nd Sunday afternoon at the White House Motel
  • A ceihli on the last Friday of the month, at the pub at St Lawrence College (for September through May)

As your times gets closer drop me a note with your schedule and maybe we can hook up with something special for you.

Chuck

Well, there are some things to keep in mind.

Canada is sparsely populated, if you’re driving, take your time, otherwise you won’t enjoy yourself much. The scenery is nice, but trees get tiresome after awhile. At the same time though, unless you want to ‘get away from it all’ there is sort of a straight line of major cities from Toronto to NB, which can make the route easy. Here is what I would suggest as the typical go.

You can do the drive from Ottawa to Halifax in a day if you don’t need sleep (add about 5 hours from Toronto). If I was you I would start in Toronto and maybe do a swing of Niagara Falls if you have never seen them (from the Canadian side of course :smiley: ) then travel up through Kingston and check out Fort Henry (as with everything else I will mention, check the web for special events, like recreations and the like, they can make and break a trip obviously) Then it is up to Ottawa. You can skip it if you want, a good many people find the city boring, but it’s home and I love it. Ottawa’s a pub city, with great museums (check out the new war museum), Parliament Hill and a fairly active Irish Community (see city guide). Ottawa is surrounded by the Ottawa Valley, with some older towns, picturesque but whether they’re worth the trouble, that’s a matter of taste.

Ottawa is on the Ontario-Quebec border and you are looking at 2 hours to Montreal. Again, you’re looking at very scenic land, nice hills if you’re wanting a hike. Don’t know what your budget is like, but checkout some of the resorts if you need to relax a bit. Montreal is a fun city, and there’s bunches to see and do. Check out Grosse Ile, old Quarantine station for the port of Montreal and mass grave of Irish immigrants. Quebec City is about 3 hours from Montreal, and is the most beautiful city in North America. If you’re driving through Quebec, you pretty much need to stop in Quebec City. From there you can go up the St. Lawrence, maybe even see some whales. Moncton is a good base to do the Maritimes. Nova Scotia is just South-East, go to Halifax (plan it with the annual military tattoo (sp?) if you can. I love Halifax, but it is rather small, I think it can be done rather quickly. Couple hours from Halifax up into Cape Breton. Sidney is a dump, but Cape Bretoners are the nicest people on the continent so stop if you’d like. The Highlands are where you want to go. Make sure your car is up to it, then head for the Cabot Trail. If you like “Scotch” you can check out Glen Breton distillery. Like I said, if Scotland is what does it for you, you’ll love the Cape Breton highlands.

PEI can be reached by ferry from New Brunswick (St. John?) or from Confederation Bridge, which would be cool to go over (http://www.confederationbridge.com/bridge/bridge.aspx?pageid=2&lang=en). I didn’t find PEI very exciting, but I was young. Lots of Lobster though b’ye, and super nice beaches (Charlottetown is historically significant as well). If you have the time, try to get to St. John’s, it would probably be worth it.

That’s a real short go over… REAL short. Like any country, you should get off the beaten track, and in Canada that means quite alot. For your interests, Irish and Scottish culture is not too difficult to come buy. Canada has four founding nations and those are two of them, so each major city has at least some of their presence. It’s a big country and there is lots to see and do. Any specific questions and I’m sure myself or one of the other Canadian Chiffers will be able to help.

Ian, let me second this sentiment. QC is a breathtaking city. Allow yourself some time (I’d say at least three days) to wander on foot to get a feel for it. This city will blow you away. :slight_smile:

Jef

If you want to go to a session in Toronto you’d be smart to check out Dora Keogh’s on a Thursday night… Sunday nights have a bit more non-Irish stuff, including some of the Cape Breton stuff you might be looking for… A great session all together… The pub’s on the Danforth – well worth visiting!

You may want to check out the Recorder Centre at 984 Dovercourt Rd. in Toronto. The number is 416-534-7931. They always have a good selection of whistles in stock. Maybe not the most high-end whistles available but a good variety of brands.

Good Luck!

That might have been true a couple of generations ago but since the Quiet Revolution the Irish immigrants have tended to head for Toronto. There is good crack to be had here though and there’s no doubt in my mind that sessions in Montreal are more fun than in Tto. Don’t expect to find any shops with exotic whistles. Although you can find Clarkes and Feadogs alongside the Generations, what more do you want? :wink:

In Cape Breton http://www.celtic-colours.com/default.html might interest you.

Hey thanks guys. Been away for a couple days and found all these wonderful suggestions. Your route OnTheMoor sounds great. I had thought of the Niagra thing and the Quebec city thing, so your other suggestions will fit in great. I was quite keen on checking out some whistles other than generations, so the tip for the “recorder” place sounds good, thanks magroibin, I am slightly dubious about the name of the shop tho’ but will chance it :slight_smile: Finances are as always the draw back but will visit as much as I can and buy as many whistles as the wife will allow :smiley:

Ian

I was thinking this Steve, but I am a young’un, so I thought I’d better keep quiet. Lot’s of Irish anyway. Also, I disagree with your Montreal vs Toronto session assessment. Any session with Debbie is more fun than one without. With the possible exception of my good friend Norm (also my pipe teacher)

Quebec City - Living here, I’m delighted to read Onthemoore’s comments. Yes, it is a very nice place. Pretty thin on the traditional Irish music, although there are one or two sessions. One has recently transferred from la Barberie to Nelligans (a new pub recently opened by Peter Farrell). That’s on Tuesday nights. I’ve only attended it a handful of times but it’s always fun and they welcome new players. It mixes traditional Irish and traditional Quebec music which adds an interesting twist.

Grosse-Île Quarantine Station - You can’t pass by without visiting this place. However, if memory serves, it is open from May to September, so if you’re passing through in October, it might be closed. Check ahead of time. To get there, you have to take a ferry. There are two ferries per day, the first leaves the mainland at around 8.00 am and returns at about 1.00 p.m. The second leaves the mainland at about noon and returns at 5.00 p.m. You’ll regret it if you don’t bring your whistles. The Irish grave yard is about the best place in North America to play a slow air.

Montreal - I’ve been to the session at Hurley’s on Saturday afternoons. I know that there’s another session no Wednesday evenings.

Isn’t Grosse Ile in Quebec City or are you talking about something else?

Great information 'OnTheMoor - I feel like doing the trip myself now!

Grosse-Île is East of Quebec City. You have to go to either Berthier-sur-mer or Montmagny (about 45 minutes drive East) and then get a ferry (another 45 minutes) to get to the island.

There is a nice music shop in Halifax:

HALIFAX FOLKLORE CENTRE—A unique music shop in a 130-year-old Victorian home. Carries a large selection of vintage guitars and violins, and new and used musical instruments including Celtic harps, mandolins, banjos, amps, basses and bodhrans. Unusual gifts, accessories, and a good selection of Celtic and Maritime music books.
1528 Brunswick St. (just off Spring Garden Road), 902-422-6350

I don’t think they have a lot of whistles on hand, but it’s fun to look around in.

If you go to Cape Breton Island, you should stop at the big Tourist Information Center in the town (Port Hastings?) you go through right after you cross the bridge. They now have a whole board listing what music is happening where. That way you won’t be finding out you just missed everything. It takes awhile to get organized but we heard great music every night and sometimes had to make hard choices. I didn’t see any whistle playing up there, but the fiddle music is the greatest. There is also dancing—if you can stay up that late!

Depending on the areas you go to in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick you could hear some Acadian music as well----I’m not sure how you would find out about specific events, I haven’t had much luck with that.

Well, I guess this is not really addressing the whistle question, sorry. :slight_smile:

If you would like to hear a song about Grosse Ile and its history and what to expect, Brendan Nolan has a wonderful song that you can listen to online at:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=52094

It is called “Far From Their Home (A Song of Grosse Isle)”


It was written to honour the victims of the Famine (150th anniversary of Grosse Ile). It is a wonderful song that gives you a flavour of the Island and the significance of the tragedy to both the Irish and to Quebec.