Irish mazurkas on fiddle
I have done some searching - tuneDB, The Session, abctunematch - for these by perl pattern, but have drawn a blank so far. Can anyone ID these tunes? My old friend Ben who is the fiddler here (it’s my disembodied voice towards the end of the clip, from the kitchen where I was cooking a curry at the time) didn’t have titles for them, so any help much appreciated.
Yes, I recognized them both right away. Mazurka #1 and Mazurka #2, if I am not mistaken. I could also smell the curry coming right out of the YouTube video, strangely enough.
Thanks Doug!
Where’s the Guru when you need him?
I actually had a quick listen before, Jem, and could make nor heads nor tails of them at first hearing. If no one else pops in first, I take another stab later.
Very nice .. a touch of the Joe Ryan’s there.
Here are Ben’s transcriptions of the two tunes - “1” and “2” just as Doug says! 
I found #2 in the Norbeck ABC collection hn-mazurka-4, where it’s called Jackie Donnan’s Mazurka. It’s different from the mazurka of the same name on The Session, but I’ve seen at least 3 other Jackie Donnan’s Mazurkas floating around.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3305
No luck on #1 yet.
OK, got it.
#1 is “I’ll Be a Good Boy” from O’Neill’s 1850 as an air, not a mazurka:
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/IKE_IM.htm#I’LL_BE_A_GOOD_BOY_%7BAND_DO_SO_NO_MORE%7D
Here’s the setting from O’Neill’s:
X:0245
T:I’ll Be a Good Boy (air)
C:after Sg’t. J. O’Neill
B:O’Neill’s Music Of Ireland (The 1850) Lyon & Healy, Chicago 1903 ed.
Z:VINCE BRENNAN 6-21-03 (HTTP://WWW.SOSYOURMOM.COM)
M:3/4
L:1/8
K:D
“_VB”(Ad)|f2(gf) (ed)|(c2A2)(A3/2G/2)|(F2D2)D3/2E/2|D4(Ad)|
(fg a2)(gf)|(ef g2)(fe)|(dc A2)A2|A4(de)|
fg a2gf|ef g2fe|d3/2c/2 de fg|f4e(f/2e/2)|
(d2A2)(A3/2G/2)|(F2D2)(FG)|(A2d2)(d{f}e)|Hd4|]
Many thanks, O Guru - I bow to your wisdom, patience and tenacity. Very grateful!
You’re very welcome, Jem. 'Twas mostly the last of those three, and some luck with Google. 
Your link’s going to the wrong “Jackie Donnan’s”, “guru”. The 2nd tune on the clip was recorded by the Leeds/Irish group “Iona” in the late 1970s, I’d reckon, and they called it “The Barnacle Redowa”. It’s also been recorded by the Aberdeen trio “The Gaugers” as “The Barnacle Waltz”.
…or early 1980s, I thought. See this link :
Yes, Kenny … sorry, I wasn’t clear. That’s the only Jackie Donnan’s on The Session, and it’s a different tune.
Right. I’ve looked … and Kenny’s dead right about the second one - it’s “The Barnacle” all right. The first one appears to be called “Napper Tandy” and turns out to be in Roche - not a million miles from how I play it. A little bit different, but really not much. Interesting that the first part should have appeared in the 1850 … but only the first part …
More on The Barnacle / Jackie Donnan’s from The Fiddler’s Companion:
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/JA_JACKS.htm#JACKIE_DONNAN’S_MAZURKA
http://www.ibiblio.org/fiddlers/BARN_BB.htm#BARNACLE_(WALTZ
The B part not included in O’Neill’s does seem like more a straight waltz than a mazurka. Maybe it’s an add-on to an original air that was the source of the mazurka-like A part?
[/quote]The B part not included in O’Neill’s does seem like more a straight waltz than a mazurka. Maybe it’s an add-on to an original air that was the source of the mazurka-like A part?[/quote]
The first sentence in the following in IRTRAD archives seems interesting in that respect:
https://listserv.heanet.ie/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9812&L=irtrad-l&P=55960
btw, Napper Tandy seems to have been recorded on a CD called “Croppy’s Complaint”:
Rats! Why didn’t the quotes work? Oh well, you get the gist …
'Cos there’s a stroke (/“slash”) in the opening brackets that shouldn’t be there.
Ha! Inveigled you on here…I suppose now you actually own a flute you’re legit…
Yes exactly. I mean, I can now play 5 reels and 7 jigs on ‘Woody’, as he has become known.
… actually, of course, that’s a lie … I can play a two octave scale, one note at a time.
YouTube clip info and tags now altered to take account of all this. Thanks everyone!
Chromatic? With key-venting? Sounding like what? With hyperventilated light-headedness?
I admit it now, it’ll all be my fault. It always is…