Eb chanter

Hi guys!
Recently I’ve been thinking about an Eb chanter… :roll:
Does any of you have one? Ever heard of? Saw it?
I have a program which allows me to transpose audio files. I’ve recorded myself playing (D chanter) and then transposed the file… Not bad at all. Brigther, and “powerful”. Like when you play an Eb whistle.
Don’t know… what’s your opinion? :confused: :confused: :confused:
thanks in advance for any reply or suggestion! :slight_smile:

Joe McKenna ( I think that’s his name) played one of his own making on an album I heard back about 10 years ago - Magenta Music was the title I think.

Cheers,

DavidG

Joe McHugh Plays on an Eb Chanter

thanks lads.
Any other recordings or players?
What do YOU think?
Do you think B, C, C# and D are enough? :stuck_out_tongue:

…sorry probably that’s an old thread… :confused:

No, I think you’ll need more holes in your chanter than that :smiley:

:laughing: Nice one, dag!

Actually, Joe Kennedy is restoring an old Kenna set, and it is defintely an Eb. Its been hacked up pretty bad by someone trying to turn it into a D, but he’s got the original measurements and made some iterations. It has a very different sound to a D, almost flute-like. I would have expected something even raspier than a D, but it turns out not to be so.

djm

Yeah, I remember Joe McKenna’s recordings sounding quite unlike a concert chanter as if there’s a u-curve of tone from flat pitch chanters with concert pitch being at the top of the curve and then the Eb back over the other side - if you get what I mean :confused:

Cheers,

DavidG

Do you know any pipemaker that could make it?

Ask the pipemakers. Any maker who is interested could probably develop one if they had the inclination, but you will have to pay for it.

djm

Hi,

my teacher who lives near Bonn/Germany made two Eb chanters because he had a young pupil with small fingers and who wanted to learn the pipes at any rate.

I never played one of them (I’ll ask him next time) - only saw one. Reminded me of a Northumrian Smallipes chanter. I think he described the sound as somewhat shrill. Well, that didn’t matter as the chanters were made only for teaching purposes, not for sessions/gigs/recordings.

The pupil plays a D chanter now.

Alexander

I have a price list Jan 1999 from Alain G. Froment he makes Eb chanters

On Christy O’Leary CD “the northern bridge” track 4 O’Keefe’s/I’d rather be married than left alone/Bill the Weaver (slides).

It sound like that he is playing in Eb as you can hear the drones and regs on track 4 only.


http://www.oldbridgemusic.com/acatalog/index.html?http%3A//www.oldbridgemusic.com/acatalog/Christy_O_Leary_CD.html&CatalogBody

Regards

Alain recently made an E flat chanter for Mick O’Briens brother John

I got an interesting album the other week,featuring Joe McHugh in the company of Hammer Dulcimer player Barry Carroll.
Don’t know what key the chanter is in,and it’s a bit late to be playing it now…

Check it oot…

http://www.joemchugh.net/

Pádge.

Alain also made a chanter in F.

thanks a lot guys! :party:
I also think that there’s more people playing C# ( :confused: ) than Eb…

Why? Why C# is a more common key?
Probably because the firts sets were in that key?

Dreaming of the Kenna set in Eb… :heart:

a chanter in F?? :really: that is probably “too much”! :stuck_out_tongue:

E flat chanters will be either raspy or mellow (or something in between ) depending on the bore:- wide or narrow etc.

Re the Kenna Eb with Joe Kennedy:- has this been shortened or lengthened, or re-bored, or re-holed? The original pitch could be one of several, but if it is close to modern Eb and is relatively unscathed then it would most likely be at A435 (Diapason Normale) in optimum conditions - about 20 cents below A440. Other chanters that play around modern Eb are usually genuine “modern” E flats or Old Philharmonic D chanters which should be playing roughly half way betweeen D and Eb.

yeah, don’t think kenna created a Eb set on purpose… :roll:

that’s what Chris Bayley wrote:

Hi Gio
I make the occasional Eb instrument based upon Patsy Touhey’s Taylor set.
I also play double chanter in the Taylor Style that dates from around 1900 – maker is unknown. This is a full 372mm in length and plays at Eb.
Regards
Chris

I believe that Eb sets around 1900 are just “experiments” of the american makers like Taylors. you know, to find the concert pitch…

Joe McKenna made his Eb to help recreate the sound of the 78s. Players seem to be sharp of 440 back then. My Taylor chanter plays sharp of 440. Francis O’Neill wrote in a letter that Touhey’s pipes were sharp of concert pitch.