Crested Hens question? Trad or no?

I just recently learned the Crested Hens, featured on some Solas recording or other. A lot of web pages I’ve seen credit Gilles Chabenat as the composer. At least one web page I’ve seen calles it a traditional Britton tune. Anyone have an authoritative answer? I’m loathe to do a Clips and Snips or put the tune on my website without some kind of confirmation.

Greg

[ This Message was edited by: Wandering_Whistler on 2002-04-13 03:01 ]

They just played that at our session last night! I loved it. I don’t have any more info for you but please let me know what you find out!

Karen Ashbrook in the liner notes to her album Knock on the Door says she learned the tune from a Breton band who had modified the original “a bouree Les Poules Hupees written by a Breton hurdy-gurdy player, Chabanat.” Did you check JCs or someplace like that to find out if there was an composer listed?

Steve

Looks like it might be trad:

http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display.php/562

http://alan-ng.net/irish/tunography/tune.asp?ID=410

http://www.whistleworkshop.co.uk/Crested%20Hen.htm

One version at JC’s lists Chabenot as composer. Thow other versions didn’t list anyone.

http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/gettune?F=GIF&U=http://www.magma.ca/~warnock/abc/accwadd.abc&X=36&T=CRESTEDHENS&N=CrestedHens.gif

Steve

On 2002-04-13 03:01, Wandering_Whistler wrote:
I just recently learned the Crested Hens, featured on some Solas recording or other. A lot of web pages I’ve seen credit Gilles Chabenat as the composer. At least one web page I’ve seen calles it a traditional Britton tune. Anyone have an authoritative answer? I’m loathe to do a Clips and Snips or put the tune on my website without some kind of confirmation.

Greg

[ This Message was edited by: Wandering_Whistler on 2002-04-13 03:01 ]

A good place to look for this sort of information is the Ceolas Fiddler’s Companion site:

http://www.ceolas.org/tunes/fc/

A search for Crested Hens turned up the following:

CRESTED HENS, THE (Les Poules Huppées). French, Bourrée à 3 temps (3/8 time). E Minor. Composed by French (Breton?) national and hurdy-gurdy (vielle a roue) player, Gilles Chabenat, who remarks that some bars of a Debussy composition served as inspiration for the germ of the tune. It is of a type from central France, where it is also a folk dance, and is usually played at a medium tempo though this tune is often heard played slower, a la Solas. Karen Ashbrook - “Knock on the Door” (learned at the Victoria Pub, London). Shanachie 78002, “Solas.”

(followed by abc’s)

It sounds like it might be one of those straight-from-composer-to-tradition situations, like with many of Paddy Fahy’s compositions.

John

On the Solas DVD/VHS, Seamus Egan says that Crested Hens was originally a much faster briton dance tune that they slowed down. He also says it’s been written by this Chabanat dude…

I recently have been playing this tune too, and like it a lot.

Does anyone have some chord suggestions to accompany the tune??

Thanks
Jeroen

On 2002-04-13 11:36, JMcCYoung wrote:
It sounds like it might be one of those straight-from-composer-to-tradition situations, like with many of Paddy Fahy’s compositions.

John

That is a statement capable of raising an eyebrow over, but then, at our session we slag Jacky Daly for importing foreign (i.e. Kerry) tunes.

On 2002-04-15 07:31, Peter Laban wrote in response to my saying:

On 2002-04-13 11:36, JMcCYoung wrote:
It sounds like it might be one of those straight-from-composer-to-tradition situations, like with many of Paddy Fahy’s compositions.

That is a statement capable of raising an eyebrow over, but then, at our session we slag Jacky Daly for importing foreign (i.e. Kerry) tunes.

Maybe I should have included a winkie, but I was actually passing along something Kevin Burke said at a concert about PF’s tunes.

John, assigning blame where blame is due :slight_smile: