A Tune by Any Other Name?

Whistle
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I’m trying to track down 2 jigs: The Lost and Found; The Wind off the Lake. Both are on Paddy Keenan’s new CD. I think they are Michael Coleman compositions, not sure. I’ve had no luck looking in the usual places (JC’s, Fiddler’s Companion, Ceolas) Do either have alternate titles? Thanks

Teri

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Have you tried:
http://tunedb.nipltd.net/tunedb

not likely to be Coleman compositions, I am not aware he composed tunes.

Paddy O Brien composed one that is called The one that was lost

edB bAF E2D EFA BAF D2 etc.

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On 2001-10-21 12:48, Peter Laban wrote:
Have you tried:
http://tunedb.nipltd.net/tunedb
not likely to be Coleman compositions, I am not aware he composed tunes.
Paddy O Brien composed one that is called The one that was lost
edB bAF E2D EFA BAF D2 etc.

Thanks again Peter. According to Paddy’s website the tunes came from an old Coleman recording (sorry for the incorrect info). Lost and Found sounds so close to something else I can’t put my finger, or ear, on. The sound clip is posted on the website:
http://www.paddykeenan.com/multimedia/track-1.mp3

Teri

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Only had time to listen to the first few notes of the first tune. As far as I can tell from that it is a tune recorded recently (more or less) by concertinaplayer Terry Bingham, only he calls it Tommy Peoples’so that doesn’t get you much further. It’s simple enough try it by ear.
Ot do an ABC search in the tunedb I mentioned above, it may yield result:

G3 dBd edB dBA should do it.




[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2001-10-22 15:43 ]

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Teri, someone showed me the tune Paddy calls “The Lost and Found” a couple of weeks ago and I’m glad to find a name for it.

It is strongly reminisicent of a few other tunes. The first part is a little like the first part of “Pay the Reckoning”. There’s also a 3-part version of Pay the Reckoning, in A, which the Boys of the Lough recorded decades ago, calling it “Tommy Peoples”. The additional part (which comes first) is practically identical to the first part of “The Lost and Found”. This tune (Tommy Peoples) is no. 45 in Bulmer and Sharpley’s Music from Ireland, Vol. 2.

The second part of “The Lost and Found” is almost identical to the second part of another jig which I learned as “The Old Black Hoe” but cannot find any trace of in collections or on the web. Here it is, just for comparison.

X:1

T:The old black hoe

M:6/8

L:1/8

R:Jig

Z:“Brother Steve” Jones

K:G

gdB BAB | GBA GBd | gdB BAB | GBd e2 f  |!

gdB BAB | GBA GBd | gfe fdB | ABd e2 f :||!

gfg bge | fef afd | gfg bge | fed e2 f |!

gfg bge | fef afd | gfe fdB | ABd e2 f :||
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Peter & Steve:

Thanks for the input. When I read the original post referencing “Connie O’Connell’s” the bell went off. That was the tune the “Lost and Found” was bringing to mind but I couldn’t name. I learned it a few years ago, but as “The Two-and-Sixpenny Girl”. I picked up Paddy’s version by ear and the “B” of the AABB was so familiar - now I know why.

When I’m searching for a tune using the Fiddler’s Companion I get the list of a.k.a’s, but no such luck with “Lost and Found” It’s interesting how tunes evolve both in name and setting by region. Now, if I could figure out the “Wind off the Lake”. There are similarities to South Wind…

Teri

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Try to post the first few bars, they may ring a bell somewhere