A boxwood Rudall/Rose flute (#5209) sold this morning at auction for roughly $4,424 US, not including a 20% commission on the price (@ $884) and VAT on the commission (@ $155).
If you’re in the USA, customs and shipping would run at about $500 on this item.
So, boxwood Rudall/Rose flute (uh…with 3 cracks by the way, in unplayable condition) would cost you $5,963.
The last one like it sold for nearly $8,000 three years ago after all the fees and such were tacked on.
Welcome to flute ownership, eh?
On 2002-11-19 05:58, David Migoya wrote:
If you’re in the USA, customs and shipping would run at about $500 on this item.
I thought customs was 0% for antiques over 100 years old.
Kevin Krell
kevin, i think you’re right!
funny, i just got charged (and paid!) a duty fee on a pair of antique flutes…
stupid me never bothered to check!
thanks for that tip!
David Migoya
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[ This Message was edited by: David Migoya on 2002-11-19 22:35 ]
whewwweeeee! Think I’ll stick to the coccuswood ones!
Depends. I met an Irish lady at Miltown this summer at a session in the Central Hotel, a fluteplayer, who had recently brought a lovely Rudall & Rose, no cracks, with box, fully keyed, for 1200 sterling, in London. She hasn’t been playing long, 4-5 years, and of course was very happy. She brought it from an older musician who’d stopped playing. The 1200 sterling was a lot of money for her, but she managed to scrape it together as she realised it was a rare opportunity. These things thankfully do happen, if you’re in the right place etc. She had the flute with her at the session, but was playing her Hamilton as she was used to it. She’d only had the Rudall 2-3 weeks. We all admired it and drooled naturally. There are Rudall’s & Boosey’s in peoples homes in Ireland & England, I hear of them, there’s a lovely Rudall outside of Tubbercurry, but you have to respect that although not played they are all that’s left of some relative, you can’t just barge in with a fistful of euros screaming gimme, gimme
From the Woodenflute.com mailing list, more discussion of antique flute prices.
Richard Moon posted this after a recent auction at Sotheby’s (possibly the same one referenced by David Migoya?):
"Since we’ve been discussing this sale you might be interested in some of
the results.
Boxwood Rudall & Rose (silver keys and mounts, original case) c1840 went
for £3346 pounds sterling (US$5280)(estimate £1500-£2000),
Clinton Equisonant c1860 for £1076 (US$1698)(estimate £600-£800),
Prowse c1840 unsold (estimate £1000 - £1500) i.e. did not reach reserve,
flute “stamped Rudal & Rose” went for £717 (US$1131)
8-key by Jordan of Liverpool unsold (est. £500 - £700),
Henry Potter 8-key, c1850 unsold (est £1000 - £1500),
6-key boxwood flute by Wainwright, c1825 unsold (est.£400-£600),
1-key boxwood flute by Collard & Collard, c1835, £430.
1-key ivory flute by D.Lott, Saxony 2nd half 18thC, £9560,
7-key boxwood flute by Rudolph Greve, Munich, mid 19thC, £4780.
1-key boxwood flute by Metzler & Co. c1840, unsold (est.£200-£300),
4-key boxwood flute by William Henry Potter £287 (est. £300-£500),
8-key rosewod flute by Joseph Wallis & Son, c1870, unsold (est.£500-£700)
Prices include buyers premium, exchange rate is about 1.57 US$ to UK£ pound
sterling."
[ This Message was edited by: thurlowe on 2002-11-20 13:14 ]
yep, that would be the same.
Now, add 3% to the final price if you’d like to pay by credit card, too.
Unreal the prices.
But, as Steampacket noted, the occassional private acquisition is out there at great prices. That 1200 pound is about $2000 US, which is very very low for a rudall that plays. They should be, respectfully, at about $3,500-$4,000 for the regular type rudall in great shape, and up/down from that depending on condition and collectibility/uniqueness.