So sad ![]()
http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/11/showbiz/whitney-houston-dead/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I know, I can’t believe it. Very few could compare to her voice.
I was never a fan of her singing style, but this is still very sad. It always is, when talented people get led astray and make tragic choices.
They don’t know yet what she died of.
Redwolf
Quite the shock. I picked up the Sunday paper and in a corner was “Whitney Houston dead – see p. C3”. I couldn’t believe she was dead, but even more couldn’t believe she was relegated to the obit page. I would have thought someone of her stature would be on the front page.
As Paul said, I was never a huge fan, but I could recognize huge talent and a potential that was derailed by some poor life choices. I feel very bad for her and hers, especially for Cissy.
It makes me feel really old that someone who became a legend while I was an adult has passed away.
It is sad. It is easy to see the tragic side. What is unseen are the “demons” that she might have been battling. I was talking to someone about it today. It might have taken all she had to get to the age of 48. To know is not to know, especially with a public persona. We see a public person and get the feeling of knowing them, but it is a veneer, nothing more.
Whitney’s death is a sad story… she needed family and friends, and someone OUGHT to have tried to step in to help. People know
People DID. Several years ago, her mom did an intervention, which is how she ended up in rehab. Her family has been directly involved in getting and keeping her clean.
We really don’t know yet what killed her. People who saw her that day and in the days before said she seemed healthy and was showing no signs of being on drugs. Police found no illegal drugs in her room, and are saying at the moment that the amount of prescription drugs they found were not consistent with an overdose.
Really, until the tox screen comes back and the medical examiner releases the rest of his/her findings, anything else is just speculation.
Redwolf
This says two things to me:
you seem to assume no one had, which given the numbers who loved her or at least had a financial stake in their meal ticket remaining alive, healthy, and functional, is supremely unlikely (like as in “no way”, and that looks like a good counter-assumption to me), and
you also seem to assume that if someone had intervened, then all would be well. That is a mistake, and it sets up the interventionist who would believe it for disillusionment and heartbreak. If life and human nature were that easily dealt with, we - anyone - could correct the world’s ills with practically the snap of a finger. Now let’s start definining “ills”. It’s an ugly business.
three…assuming cause of death
I wasn’t even ready to go there yet, but…yeah.
I thought ya’d need to start there ![]()
But Redwolf had already covered that for me! I’ll try to be more scintillatingly exact next time. ![]()
sorry, was yer sez two things to me line…
I had two things: assuming cause of death and no familiarity with the her history
I think there are a number of angles we could read into the assumption. Those were just my two most immediate come-to-minders; a glimpse into the murky workings of the Mind of Nano, if you will. Scary, innit.
Oh, I was thinking people were being snarky about her choice of music.
I think it is a fact that she pretty much ended her career with things she had done, and who knows what other damage was done. Seems like that can be “tragic” and yet unrelated to her death. Treatment is dicey at best and if she made it to 48 there were many times she didn’t do herself in regardless of however she finally fell.
Perhaps we should redefine intervention to include hurting in whatever form that may be, with her family & friends hanging in as long as necessary. Tough love would have let her go a long time ago. The families and friends knew she was at least hurting (somethings up). I’m not assuming death from drugs. I don’t even want to know the toxicology report, its none of our business. The mass media and populace is once again drooling.
One of the biggest “ills” is us wanting to know… can’t wait for that toxrep six week dilemma, and one of us populace will get it and “let it slip out”. What if its not in there, its really in the hurting prior.
How about a few pounds of dry ice to flood the room or a bullet to the back of the head?
I would like some evidence that “Tough love” works. Seems like a great way to wash your hands and that is it.
There’s no such thing as single successful method for everyone other than an individualized treatment. I suspect Tough love" is way down on the list of successful methods.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ms. Houston was physiologically much older than her chronological age. The substances she abused will do that to a body long after abuse has ended. Personally I think it is important to know what caused her death, maybe it could stop some future train wreck.
I think there are a number of angles we could read into the assumption. Those were just my two most immediate come-to-minders; .
well, speaking of two… tough love list has to include “boo hoo”, and, “it happens”
maybe they’re way down the list, nonetheless, there.
p.s. hows that toxrep you’re craving? any a_ _l slippage? it can be “murky” at times