OT: Olwell Pratten vs. Nicholson

I have an order in with Patrick
and I have to choose between them and I’m
going bats, not being able to play either.
I know people have expressed views,
still I’d be grateful if you would hold
my hand.

I have no trouble filling a Pratten.

I’m playing lots of different music,
ITM, Bach, everthing that moves me.

Well, which do you prefer, those of
you who can get to play these?
Will you PM me if you don’t wish to
express a view onboard>

Does anybody know if the Olwell Pratten
is louder than a Copley flute? How
about the Nicholson?

A soul in torment. Thanks, Jim

I doubt it’s actually louder but it is capable of a “thicker” sound. I’ve played an Olwell Pratten and Nicholsen next to a Copley I owned last summer. I’ve actually got a Pratten coming soon - I dig the full reedy sound, that’s why I went with the Pratten even though the difference between the two isn’t that great… Olwell’s Pratten is a smaller holed pratten (compared to other Prattens)… I have a Gallagher Pratten that has an even bigger sound than an Olwell Pratten… Bigger holes…

If you’re going to keep your Copley, I’d go with the Pratten for a change… Patrick will take back whichever one you get if you think you’d prefer the other…

Best,

Thanks. Yes, I’m definitely keeping the Copley, which
is keyed and lovely.

Having to choose between ITM, Bach, and everything that moves me, I would go with the Bach, at least for today. I think that was your question, Jim.

:roll: :slight_smile:
You know there are some kids (usually about 6 years old) who will bump into everything because you told them to watch where they walk and they put their head down and literally watch every footstep …

So would I. Thank heaven I don’t have to choose!

This topic is not even remotely OT.

When I was pregnant, I couldn’t fill many flutes. Pat’s small-holed flute fit the bill. It’s sweet and easy to fill, but it lacks power. The Pratten can be hard to get a pure sound out of, but not impossible, and it can really honk, but the upper octave isn’t going to be as sweet as that on smaller flutes. The Nicholson seems to be a happy medium.

Thanks Jessie. Right, not at all OT. I was half
asleep when I posted.

Oh.. I figured you wouldn’t want to sell your Copley. If I could have afforded to keep my 6 key, I would have… Lovely.

Yes, i can’t compare it to Olwells, except for the
boxwood unlined Olwell (apples, oranges), but so far
the Copley is better than good, and
it keeps opening up the more I play it.
Last summer Grey Larsen played it
and, well, what an impressive sound.

I did have a chance to play a Nicholson and Pratten side-by-side a couple of months ago. I didn’t find a noticeable difference in playability, and we were outside, so it was difficult to judge the difference in sound. They were different enough, though, the Pratten in blackwood with a lined head, the Nicholson in cocus with a pernambuco head (that Pat said takes an hour or so to really warm up), that it probably wouldn’t have been a valid comparison anyway.

I have a pilgrimmage to Nellysford planned in two weeks, after which I should have a pretty good handle on it. Any idea when he starts turning wood for yours, Jim? I’m hoping in a month or two for mine!

About the same time frame, I hope.
I’d be grateful if you would give me a report
about these flutes after your visit.
Great experience to go there.
Good for you!

What is there to stop the purple dye coming out of the pernambuco headjoint ?
Originally, before much violin bowmaking was done with the wood it was exported for dye extraction !
When I work bowsticks the dust gets everywhere. It stains my hands, clothes, hair, - the lot .

I made a flute out of pernambuco, and I remember washing my hands, there was fine dust on the sink, and the whole thing turned into bight red, like Aniline dye powder.

There are many different ways to reply to a question. The obvious way is to answer the question directly. However, mere factual discourse tends to be a little dry, in my opinion.

An obvious diversion from a straightforward factual reply can result in any number of different kinds of replies all together. One such reply is to pretend that you didn’t quite understand the question and instead go off on a tangent. I see this as an invitation to play, and the goal is humor and fun.

Readers who do not understand the invitation to play may quickly rush to the judgement of childishness, stupidity, or irrelevance on the part of the writer. However, people who accept the invitation to play will form an appropriate response to the invitation. They will modify or embellish the original divergent reponse, taking it to a ridiculous or impossible conclusion, somehow related to the original question. Hilarity can be the result of a series of preposterous responses to what was at first a sober question.

Interesting threads may have multiple strands: factual and humorous, all mixed together. Personally, I prefer strands without subtle jabs and personal judgements.

Second this.

Talasiga, I’m afraid the
internet magnifies irony.
Whatever you mean to express,
it’s hard not to see some of your
posts as mocking and personal,
and the trend appears to be
increasing.

You’re valued here and nobody is
doing this to you. Grateful if
you would reciprocate. Jim

Nobody in the world could take it seriously if someone tried to mock you, Jim !

Say what you want about me. But lets leave Doug out of it.

Did you have a nice Christmas?
We’re supposed to fly off to Boston today
for the American Philosophical Association
Eastern Division Meetings.

Elephant shit.

I understand that American airports no longer function, though the elephants seemingly depositing manure on the runways may be functioning well.
It seems a strange time of year to cut handlers wages !
Have a good trip if circumstances permit, now Mrs Stone runs the show!

All that a man really needs is a good
woman with a good job. Back later.