New flute, by Francois Baubet

Just had to share :slight_smile:
Got this second hand keyless D Mopane flute today, made by Francois Baubet.
I already have one of his Delrin flutes, and this one just confirms my belief that he is really a top notch maker!
Only gripe is that the right hand section and foot are stuck like someone used superglue for cork grease..
I hardly ever take those two pieces apart on my other flutes, but still.. Guess i will have to wait for the dreaded Scandinavian winter to hopefully take care of it.

Do you know if this model is based on a particular historical design? (… IIRC your delrin flute was a R&R copy, wasn’t it?)

Looks nice anyway! How about a sound clip? :puppyeyes:

I have heard on the grapevine that Francois flutes are based on/inspired by? Chris Wilkes, and that neither he nor any modern maker carbon copies old flutes with more or less quirks :slight_smile: Then again, you said ā€œbased onā€.. I guess since he use separate RH and LH sections that Pratten can be ruled out looks wise, on the other hand i’ve been told Eamonn Cotter use a ā€˜Rudall-esque’ bore but Pratten looks.
I really don’t know. All i do know is that more people should buy flutes from Francois before he starts charging what the flutes are truly worth!

Ah yes, sorry, that was the other recent Baubet-thread which was about an R&R copy… or ā€œR&R inspiredā€ for that matter. :slight_smile:

Might be the opposite of ā€œtenon compressionā€ from the cork. It seems to have a way of deforming the wood in the socket. I have a set of Spanish Bagpipes that are that way, from really tight cork being used on the drone sliders. Hard going in and then its like it reaches a chamber. Am going to have to carefully reream these out some day. Then thread wrap the tenons.

I find that a little but of side to side movement is enough usually to unlock cork tenons from their sockets, rather than a rotary motion.

Mopane is still one of my favorite flute woods and I just loaded up with more of it. Pretty flute.

Casey

Pretty flute…but I was actively trying NOT to think of Francois’ flutes…I think I have 7 months or so left to wait for my keyed flute.

Eric

Interested to see how you think it compares with your delrin one in your experience. When was the mopane flute made?

The Mopane one was delivered (and thus made) in 2011.
First impression is that it is more ā€œvibrantā€ sounding than the delrin one, a bigger, more complex sound. Not really a fair comparison since he use different reamers now than the ones he did 3 years ago.
Would be more relevant to compare two recent flutes for difference in sound since that would be almost exclusively down to material used.

Nice looking flute! :thumbsup:

Talked to the original owner, apparently he never took the foot and RH section apart.. MIght be something of a challenge to part them three years later..

Audio file?
I pray! :party:

You might be wanting one of this specific flute, but I will add that Francois has a YouTube channel with various videos of his different flutes.

Bit of tomb raiding/thread resurrection here.. anyhoo.. Sound clips you asked?
Here’s the Mopane Baubet CLICK
And the Delrin Baubet for comparison CLICK

As usual it’s not me playing in the clips.. Sorry (better me than you :wink: )

Both sound great, and pretty much the same to me. Maybe they sound a bit different in person (if you still feel that way), but recorded…I’m not sure I could pick which was which based only on sound.

Nice playing, too, if not you…then who is it? We demand names! :swear:

4.5 months still to go…just added 4 of his large, flat rings. I’ve loved that style of rings since I first same them in the Timber! flute tutor, and now they shall be mine! :heart:

Now my flute, is going to look like this (well, except in delrin not cocus, no Cnat and only one head joint):

Eric

Who is the player in the clips? Nice to hear what the flute is capable of!

Of course there are several variables to take into account, but in those particular clips I actually preferred the sound in the delrin one.


Edit: Nevermind. I see it was Marc in the clips. Nice! Thanks for sharing.

I actually asked for, and got sort of a ā€œPepsi challengeā€. IMO it’s very hard to really hear what the flute/s sound like unless you’re the listener (as opposed to the player) I did nail all three though, but i have got to admit is was a bit of a gamble.. Not at all like night and day between them.
Maybe i should’ve added the Murray sample too, it’s HERE if you want to make your own comparison, not much of a challenge now though :slight_smile:

I am absolutely not trying to pick a fight or be insulting when I say it would be very difficult for most listeners to tell much of anything about the flutes’ tonal qualities with tunes played so fast. Not very enjoyable to listen to either, IMO, but perhaps that’s another subject entirely. At any rate, I do appreciate the time and effort that went into making and posting the clips, I just think significantly slower playing, or a mix of playing speeds, would have served the purpose better.

Am I alone in this point of view?

Yes and no…I enjoyed the tunes and the playing style, but I do agree mixing it up may have better showcased any difference in tone. Like I said the page before, I really couldn’t tell much difference between the two except to say I like what I heard tone-wise.

The clips didn’t strike me as being particularly fast. Nice playing, I thought.

FWIW, of the two original clips I also couldn’t see all that much difference between the two flutes - both sounded lovely.

They are great sound clips and perfectly demonstrate the flutes. I don’t want to hear anything slowed down, I want to here a flute at full speed as one would normally play. In this way it is possible to hear how the flute responds under normal playing conditions. If we slow things down then or brain will try to compensate or tweak things.