The B part of Morrison’s Jig is composed
of triplets (as is the A, but I’m having
no trouble with that). I could use
some advice about how to tongue them.
I’m actually trying to triple tongue
them–part of my program to improve
my technique. But this may be overdoing
the articulation. How are you’all
doing it?
As I recall, I usually tongue the 1st and 3rd notes of each triplet. The first a little heavier…
doo hoo too, doo hoo too, doo hoo too (ex)
Usually a triplet is when three notes replace two. A double jig such as Morrison’s often has six eitghth notes per measure. They are grouped in three to a beat but are not really triplets. You could put in a triplet by playing three notes in place of the first two or the last two notes of a group of three.
Steve
Sorry, Steve, if my post was confusing.
I’m musically illiterate, I’m afraid.
Yes, the doo hoo too tonguing seems to
work pretty well–thanks. I wonder
if anybody out there is double
or triple tonguing these passages?
Maybe that’s making a federal case
out of things. Jim
Okay, now this is exactly the sort of thing that begs for the “instruction/examples” section of clips and snips that some recently suggested:
One person has a question like Jim’s and ideally would post an example or two of what he’s currently doing. Others would then respond with words and sound clips to illustrate what they mean.
Tony has already said he’s up for adding the extra page, so what say you guys jump on this and be the first to get your feet wet? Or am I just whistling on one lung here?
Loren
Sounds like a great idea. Unfortunately
I lack the hardware; also I’m even more
computer illiterate than I’m musically
illiterate. But that doesn’t make the idea
any less good. The torch must be
carried forward in the hands of
others!
Sounds like the question for Brother Steve. Where’s he lurking nowadays I wonder..
On 2001-12-17 20:06, Eldarion wrote:
Sounds like the question for Brother Steve. Where’s he lurking nowadays I wonder..
the Brother was on the brink of upgrading to Father a few weeks ago, new arrivals, that usally leaves little time for anything else ;~)
[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2001-12-18 05:11 ]
I just ran throught the B part of Morrisons in my head and couldn’t find any triplets, so I checked at tune finder and it agreed with my humming … no triplets?
Yeah, I can’t figure out where there might be any triplets either. Are you guys really, secretly talking about rolls?
Chris
Sorry, gang, for this confusion!
I don’t know much about reading
music or terminology, obviously.
If you look at the B part, the first
measure begins with three notes,
a B, an E, followed by another E.
Then there is a second cluster
composed of three notes, an F sharp
(I think), followed by two Es.
The next measure also consists of two
clusters of three notes. And so the jig
goes on… My question is how to
articulate these clusters.
I’m taking the sheet music from 121 Irish
Session Tunes.
Alright… got it. It’s okay, I learned to read music by playing the whistle, so don’t feel embarresed. Those aren’t triplets. They’re just clumped together to show the rhythm better and so they’re easier to read.
There are several ways to articulate these notes. The most traditional is with cuts - a cut preceeding the first note of the group and one to seperate the two Es. I wouldn’t recommend articulating the second note in any special sort of way.
You could also tongue the notes, but in my opinion that sounds pretty lame. There are definately other ways to do this, but I’m a little too dense right now to put them down in writing.
Really though, the key is to vary it and articulate them differently every time through. Good luck.
Those three-eigths groups are very typical for jigs. Brother Steve recommends slurring the first eigths (that would be B-- f#-- | a-- f#-- for the first two measures) and tonguing the repeated note that makes the second and third eigth (always e in those first two measures). That gives you a slur-tongue-tongue rhythm, or S-T-T.
The important part is not so much the articulation as the rhythm and the jig-feeling. You want to stress the first eigth without turning it into something that could be written B>ee f>ee | a>ee fee | etc. What you’re looking for is that fiddle-dee, diddle-dee feeling. Slurring the first eigth will put the right swing and stress there, and tonguing the last two eigths will separate them crisply. (Don’t use cuts unless you’ve got the rhythm down rock solid. I know I don’t, usually.) 
And check out Bro Steve’s section on jigs. 
Maybe it’s time to resucitate Tune of the Week on Clips. I’ll post my version to that page. Don’t forget Porri(d)ge posted a nice rendition. It would be interesting to hear everyone’s variations on the B part.
Tony
Thanks to all! I guess it wasn’t such
a bad question, once I managed to get clear
about what I was asking. Above are 3 different ways to articulate the B part of Morrison’s Jig–and doubtless there are others out there. I reckon that much of the
art of this music comes in here. I have
much to think about. By the way,
it was Porridge’s rendition that
inspired me to learn this piece. Best, Jim
Wow had no idea! Brother Steve’s upgrading to Father hehe
I also second the opinion that Porridge did a really nice job on Morrison’s Jig in clips & snips!
I think i can do fiddle-dee-dee with
cuts. Gee, I’m grateful to all you guys!
Peter, you may be in hot water, I think that was supposed to be a secret!
Is anyone else having trouble playing Porridge’s clip? It distorts and garbles terribly for me and I don’t have the “right click to save” (or and other save to) option due to my extremely limited and non-upgradeable MSNTV browser 
Tony, do you think it’s the compression rate that was used that is messing me up?
And yeah, we really do need a tune of the day thing or someway for folks to post various examples of different ways to play the same tune.
Loren
Loren
I’ll check the mp3 compression when I get home. (And get two more of Steve Turner’s pipe tunes online!) On Friday, I’m going to a party hostedd by a session member. We’re to bring instruments. They’ll even sing Christmas carols. Some of them sound cool on whistle. (They’ll find out.) Somewhere during the weekend, I’ll get an uilleann pipe page up. (I’m cajoling my 16yr old son into doing the graphics). AND I’ll get my Morrison’s Jig up. I’ll probably have to call in sick after Christmas to rest up.
Tony
Morrison’s has been recompressed. You should be able to listen to it now, Loren. (I didn’t get any practice this evening. Sheesh.)
Tony