Of course, you are mixing in so many scenarios that you blur the entire point you are trying to make.
First of all, why throw 9/11 in when talking about deaths in Iraq. Iraq had little, if anything to do with 9/11. We did not go into Iraq to take care of the insurgents who were responsible for 9/11. If we had gone full out into Afghanistan, then people were complaining about the deaths being for nothing, you might have an argument, but not when it comes to the war in Iraq.
As for your thoughts on “avoiding war” you’re right, that wouldn’t prevent needless deaths. However, it would be nice “better” if we were at war with those responsible, that might make the deaths more meaningful, so to speak.
In regards to the President, I agree with you on one point- I’m glad I’m not him either.
Give the sacrifices some meaning, it would.
I’ve been opposed to the war all along, but now that it has taken a friend of mine I find myself even more furious.
This is kind of along the topic, but it brought some bittersweet humour to my situation. I should be greatful that I can laugh at it…did anyone see the “Saddama bin Laden” skit on Mad TV the other Saturday? Funny as it was, it really did comment on the logic, or lack thereof, of being in Iraq.
You obviously are not speaking to the same people I am speaking to. When I get statements like “More people die in Philadelphia every day than die in Iraq” (which in of itself is a ridiculous statement) you can’t help but come away feeling that these people really don’t care. In fact, in the wake of September 11, there are many, MANY people who feel that Middle Eastern lives are very much expendable and we should just “blow them off the map” and get it over with. I have been told way too many times that we should just nuke the hell out of them all because of what “they” did to us. Statements like this show, without a doubt, that there is very little value placed upon the lives of the Iraqi people, and that is just sickening to me.
arent they human lives, after all? And who is there that can put a value on a living person? Anyone who feels that they can is diluding themselves from a position of supposed authority or superiority.
We cant change the actions of people, but we should not let the actions of others dictate what our reactions will be.
My friend used to send me emails about how well he was treated by the Iraqi people, tales of their humanity from a first person POV. In my travels I have yet to go to the middle east, but I have been to enough places in this world to understand that people are people, the same as the rest of us; I am no better than people in Ecuador still living in huts, nor is the President any better than I or anyone else and to presume that we can sweep in and take as many lives as we wish for no good reason whatsoever is to invite folly.