So all this talk of double cut rolls over in the small-embouchure-not needed-flute (whistle ( )) forum got me thinking I might want to try some out. Anyway, being tired of practicing the fundamentals/basics/important stuff I thought I’d give it a shot. This is what resulted:
I am in no way qualified to tell you how well you did based on whether you got it correct or not (which I assume you did), but it sounded amazing! How long have you been playing the Irish flute?
The high G roll on the second time through doesn’t sound right but sounded ok to me on first time through. I’ve not come across the term "double cut roll’ - is it a roll followed immediately by a cut?
Nope, its a roll starting with two cuts. As defined by Larsen…
Who goes on to say that they’re ‘difficult to play and should be used sparingly’, ‘condensed double-cut rolls are particularly rare’ and (not sure if he’s talking about the condensed ones or all of them here, but suspect all) ‘most players never use them at all.’
I think you make it sound good, and it opens a few interesting possibilities. Not long ago I was listening to some recordings of Tom Morrison, and by the sound of it it flashed in my mind that maybe he was using the same technique you’re using.
Just a respected performer expressing his opinion in his generally respected book (see endorsements by Matt Molloy etc.). No more, no less… on which note, you don’t have to agree, and I’m not expressing an opinion here (just quoting), don’t always agree with him myself despite his greater knowledge (don’t suppose Matt Molloy does either despite his endorsement of the whole!), but might well in this case when I’d say there are other things that most of us could far more profitably be working on getting right!
Hi. Thanks for uploading this clip. I think your are doing well. I did have the same initial reaction to the the high ‘g’ rolls the second time through. I think I have to listen again before commenting further. Though it did make me think about the tune I just posted in Flute forum. it’s a barn dance, and I do some kind of double roll, or maybe tap, throughout the tune. perhaps one of you can identify exactly what I am doing?
Thank, Arbo.
If anyone’s interested in what it sounds like when one of the best players in the world does this see track 04 (acouplereels) in the outtakes on Tom McElvogues website:
I’m pretty sure that’s what he’s doing on Sean Reid’s. Turlach Boylan also does it quite frequently on his recordings. The key is is to be playing the reel at a nice relaxed pace so the double cut roll doesn’t sound too chaotic, I think.
And yes, I think we’re all well aware that there are more important things to work on. Doesn’t mean we can’t muck around once in a while.
Thanks. I’ve been playing flute for a shade over 2 years now, and whistle maybe 6 months longer than that.
Nope, its a roll starting with two cuts. As defined by Larsen…
Thanks Peter for the explanation and thanks FascinatedWander for the link - must admit much as I admire Tom McElvogues playing that double cut roll doesn’t do much for me.
)) forum got me thinking I might want to try some out. Anyway, being tired of practicing the fundamentals/basics/important stuff I thought I’d give it a shot. This is what resulted:
