Peter,
As I was reading your first post, I was brought back to Milltown, on top of the hill, at the ceremony at Willie’s grave site where musicians of all ages played, surrounded by kids sitting on the grave stones, sharing the love for the music with all who were there, in a very simple and beautiful way.
This IS what it is all about and you are part of it.
Otter
Kind words. I had a similar experience last night. A group of us was invited to the Feakle festival to conduct a singing session [with some bits of music thrown in] at Naughton’s, a tiny country pub on the back of beyond some miles out of Feakle. On the way in the man driving the mini bus took a wrong turn and we ended up lost in East Clare, driving into Bodyke at some point. I knew the way from there, and turned your man back onto the main Tulla to Scariff road where we pased the house of the late Martin Rochford, a musician who died three years ago and whom I held very dearly. It filled me with sadness and images of the music that was playe in the now dark house.
Anyway, we arrived late at the pub where we were supposed to be, it was one of these tiny country places six metres square, counter on one side selling groceries and drink, concrete floor, tube-light on the ceiling. The basic old stuff.
The evening was devoted mainly to singing and there was a rake of lovely singers, Robbie MacMahon from Spancil Hill was there, a guy from Nenagh whose name escapes me but who had a store of hilarious songs plus all the singers we brought along.
Kitty Hayes and myself did our usual stuff on the pipes and the concertina as a break from the singing. After that somebody started the song about Martin Rochford’s queen bee. It is a song composed by Eugene Lambe and it describes how Martin drove all the way to Kilkenny to collect a new queen for his hives, stopped for a drink or two on the way, arriving home too late to introduce her into the hive. The descision was made to let the bee loose in the room and hive her in the morning. Then Martin fell asleep in the chair while the queen bee roamed about the place. Eventually she landed on his nose, in a reflex he commenced to whack her to bit with his cap, wasting the 5 pound he paid for her as well as th day’s travel.
It’s a hilarious song, especially if you know the people involved in it. To me it closed a circle to hear it sung there and then, Naughton’s being one of his old haunts, where you could find him giving out. It held a sense that he lingers on, he is remembered and acknowledged still.
Later I played some tunes on the whistle along with a fiddleplayer we brought with us, Sean MacNmara, the leader of the Liverpool Ceiliband and at 73, a nice powelful player. In the tiny space a few couples danced a half set under the glare of the light, battering the concrete and having huge fun while at it [we arrived back at the house at 5.30 this morning that says something]. I thought about your post while playing in the corner and thoug once again, that this was what it is all about and it makes it more than worth all the trouble.
Sorry for creating this meandering, mostly off topic thread. There are a few bits in there that are very basic to the way I think about the music.
[ This Message was edited by: Peter Laban on 2002-08-10 12:51 ]
I really love Junior Crehan’s music and have been playing a few of his tunes live. For example “Her golden hair down her back" I’ve been using in a set of hornpipes for Irish traditional step dancing. But I’m a bit confused because I’ve seen tunes like Otters Holt listed on recordings as being traditional and then other tunes of his with his name on it. I would like to record this set of hornpipes, but I was thinking I would have to cut out the Junior Crehan tunes because of copyright. Is this correct or is his music public domain?
On 2002-08-10 14:04, DavidSchulz wrote:
I really love Junior Crehan’s music and have been playing a few of his tunes live. For example “Her golden hair down her back" I’ve been using in a set of hornpipes for Irish traditional step dancing. But I’m a bit confused because I’ve seen tunes like Otters Holt listed on recordings as being traditional and then other tunes of his with his name on it. I would like to record this set of hornpipes, but I was thinking I would have to cut out the Junior Crehan tunes because of copyright. Is this correct or is his music public domain?
http://www.imro.ie/faq/songwriters_composers_publishers.shtml#
and
the previous thread about copyright in this forum should answer your questions.
Teri
Bringing thread up to say this: The three Weekenders worked up Junior’s tune last night and its a new regular on the playlist. The other two loved it!
Thank you Peter, and thank you Steve. Felt good to continue the memorial and add a tune for this kind of reason.
Well, we could keep this up for a while, I have in the past posted a few of Junior’s tunes to the database on conecertina.net, you’ll be able to dig them out searching under the contributor’s name.
I copy one here, I play with Kitty Hayes. I t is one of Junior’s ‘develpments’ from the air Anachuin, he composed several tunes out of that one including the Killaloe Boat, The Hole in the Boat, The Sheep in the boat etc.
I am no good ad modes so take the Em with a pinch of salt, it does the job.
T:Hole in the Boat, The
R:Jig
M:6/8
L:1/8
K:Em
~E3 FEE|EFA B2e|edB BdB|AFD FED|
~E3 FEE|EFA B2e|edB BdB|1AFD E2D:||2AFD E2A||:
Bee efe|dB^c d2f|edB BdB|AFD FED|
~E3 FEE|EFA B2e|edB BdB|1AFD E2A:||2AFD E2D||
Peter,
At the moment I’m reading a book put out by NPU entitled “Ceol na hEireann”, book 2. I was admiring some of the snaps in it when I read who the were credited to. The photos of Martin Rochford and Paddy Killoughery are magical. Congratulations.
Thanks for the tune Peter. My standard converter
http://www.fojar.com/~steve/abctostaff/
wouldn’t work on it. Any suggsetions anyone for the abc impaired person.
thanks,
Don
sometimes ABC converters need X:1 as the first field
Peter,
I really enjoyed your original post and the long meandering one. From what you’ve described, the folks in the car, sitting by the road side, learned more of Junior, than they could with 20 cd’s and a yard of ABC’s.
Thoughts on Junior Creehan
Music men have an affect on folks,
they play, folks play.
Tokens of the magic:
pictures, recordings, scores;
but, momentos
of the life
that great hearts
shower us with.
Poured out
at the pub,
or house,
or grave
'Tis the sharing
of life,
Junior’s legacy.
\
Enjoy Your Music,
Lee Marsh
[ This Message was edited by: LeeMarsh on 2002-08-12 16:14 ]
My older sister and I went to the Willie Clancy week aged 7 and 9 - I did a whistle class and she did fiddle. One of her most memorable experiences was when Junior Crehan came into her class and played ‘the mist covered mountain’ for them.
A question - Did Junior Crehan write ‘the butterfly’? I think he did, but I don’t know why I think he did so I could be wrong. Can anyone enlighten me?
jo.
On 2002-08-12 18:14, Jo C wrote:
A question - Did Junior Crehan write ‘the butterfly’? I think he did, but I don’t know why I think he did so I could be wrong. Can anyone enlighten me?
jo.
If you mean the three-part slip jig Butterfly, that is usually credited to Tommy Potts. The second and third parts of the tune are traditional and are in O’Neill’s with some Irish name I forget. Potts wrote the first part. (Steve posted the name of the original tune recently, in response to weekenders, but I forget in which thread; may have been in this forum you you might try a search.)
Sorry, I repeated what Bloomfield said. His post up wasn’t online at time I made this post which was originally a reply to JoC’s question. So…Just ignore this.
Currently loving the edit feature,
Nate
[ This Message was edited by: energy on 2002-08-13 14:46 ]
[ This Message was edited by: energy on 2002-08-13 14:48 ]
On 2002-08-10 14:04, DavidSchulz wrote:
I really love Junior Crehan’s music and have been playing a few of his tunes live. For example “Her golden hair down her back" I’ve been using in a set of hornpipes for Irish traditional step dancing. But I’m a bit confused because I’ve seen tunes like Otters Holt listed on recordings as being traditional and then other tunes of his with his name on it. I would like to record this set of hornpipes, but I was thinking I would have to cut out the Junior Crehan tunes because of copyright. Is this correct or is his music public domain?
I had contacted Kevin Crehan regarding one of Junior Crehan’s compositions being used on the Wooden Flute Obsession compilation. He referred me to the appropriate party to receive a Mechanical License for the recording:
Shay Hennessy
Crashed Music/Connoisseur Records
162 Church Rd.
East Wall
Dublin 3, Ireland
phone: +353 1 8881188
fax: +353 1 8561122
email: info@crashedmusic.com
Kevin Krell
Thanks for the info Kevin. Much appreciated !
Hey Peter
I was at a house concert here in Windsor last night in which Grainne Hambly played her harp. Grainne played several Junior Chrehan’s tunes and stated emphatically that she loved Junior’s tunes and how easily they adapted to harp.
She played the tune posted here, “Her golden hair hanging down her back.” After the concert she played the tune again for me on the harp and her concertina and a friend made a recording for me to study — bonus.
Thought I would just let you know that Junior Crehan’s music is alive.
MarkB
His music is very much alive! His tunes get played in Boston quite often. I think his tunes are very well suited for flute as well.
Chris
Some years ago, playing a lot of
old prewar style Irish stuff, on the internet I ran into one of Junior’s family. Anyway not bothered to follow it up I noticed
in passing conversation mention of
a ‘Junior Crehan Tune Book’ and at the time I understood it would be
for sale later that year.
I forgot about it not having any
use for yet more new tunes but
now I do. It would be a nice
addition to any collection and
I bet there are many Kieran’s of
all varieties weighing in for the
royalties.
Nonetheless it would be nice if
the family could organise something
even if incomplete and sell it
along with some of the more tested
and loved old Irish magazines - I
am certain the native reader knows
exactly what I mean here -
Best regards to all and apologies
to those who messaged me but got
no reply!
I heard this was in the works as well and would love to hear that it’s well underway. Anybody know how things are going on it?
Carol