intonation?

Hello folks, and now for a good old fashioned whistle related question :stuck_out_tongue:
Under duress from my worship leader at church, I pulled out my tuner and found, to my surprise, that the tuning could change dramatically depending on how hard I blew (note: I’m not a musicial person, I really was surprised to see that). Now I was using a clarke sweetone, and I was curious if this is:
#1: just one of those things I’m going to have to learn to deal with and will disapear as I get a better ā€œfeelā€ for my instrument
#2: Something that will be greatly reduced if I get a ā€œhigher-endā€ whistle
#3: something that will disapear completely with the purchase of a ā€œhigher endā€ whistle
#4: any combanation of the above, or anything else

Please, any explanation would be very helpful, as I get weird looks any time I play cuz I’m out of tune

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… Nature of the beast. Wind blown instruments… especially of the whistle nature, you will be able to get a fluctuation up or down depending on the force you’re using to get the particular note you’re playing… just think about it this way… you have to blow harder the more holes you have open or as you go up the scale right? Therefore, once you hit a note, play around a bit and you’ll notice there’s a bit of ā€˜play’ before you will break into the note above or below.

You will see more of this on some, less of it on others, but no matter what, you will always have at least a small amount of what I like to call ā€œcontrolā€ over any give note. :smiley:

Don’t worry, you get used to it after a while. You’ll never even notice it after a few years. Just kidding! :smiley: you’ll have it down in no time… just takes some getting used to like anything else.

Take care,
John

(edited for typographical eech inspediment submission before checking)

Well, this is going to happen, but as you gain more experience you will at least be more consistent in your intonation. When playing alone, it doesn’t make much of a difference, but when playing with others, you have to do your best to listen to them and blow yourself into tune (after tuning up before starting, of course).

In theory, my corps’ fife line is all in tune with each other before we start a gig. In reality, people blow one way when tuning up and another once they get playing. So adjustments have to be made. We have agreed to all focus on listening to the strongest player and trying to play in tune with him/her.

Playing for singers is challenging, as is playing multiple part harmonies in small groups. You could try practicing in front of your tuner, concentrating on playing each note in tune. This will help because as I said at the beginning of this post, you will become consistent with practice. You have a tuner, so you might as well try to be consistently in tune! :slight_smile:

A better whistle may make some immediate difference, as there are whistles with less demanding breath control requirements than the Sweetone, but you’ll get a handle on the Sweetone soon enough. Besides, it’s got a charming sound for worship music, don’t you think?

Best of luck!

Jim

Sweetones do have a lovely sound for worship music, I get complements everytime I play :stuck_out_tongue: I’d just rather be focusing on something other then getting the tuning right when I do play (of course, in the words of my worship leader: ā€œit kinda creates a cool chorus effect with the keyboardā€ not sure if that is a good thing or not) Anyway, I have an Elfsong D/C set on the way, do you think that will be an inprovement or make it more difficult to hit that note (with my luck… :roll: )

I think the Elfsongs are easier all round. I love the way they switch octives with such ease. I was a very good unintentional octave splitter :boggle: until I got my Elfsong.

When playing with others, intonation is almost as important as hitting the right notes. Fortunately, it becomes automatic after awhile. (It could be worse. Imagine playing fiddle instead of whistle.)

my opinion: sweetones are about as consistent as you can get in an inexpensive whistle, from the standpoint of intonation. don’t be in a hurry to spend more money just in the hope of finding the perfectly tuned whistle–that probably won’t work. i’ve spent plenty more, but i still like and play my sweetones, and with other instruments. it’s possible you got a lemon, although that would contradict most people’s experience, or that you’re really overblowing to be heard over the other instruments. that might make you sharp some.