Goldie Overton "modal" D/C whistle (long)

The parcel from Germany finally arrived and like Mark J I am now the proud owner of an Overton “modal” whistle by Colin Goldie. Sue (Whistlepeg) asked for my impressions of this unusual addition to the whistle family so here goes. These are very much first impressions, based on a couple of hours of experimentation.

The instrument is like a standard Overton high D except it’s a couple of inches longer, with two extra holes - one for the little finger of the bottom hand, which gives you a C natural (below the low D, and also in the next two octaves) and one on the back for the thumb of your bottom hand, which gives you an F natural.

Ignore these two holes and you can play the instrument exactly like an ordinary D whistle. (Some care is required: you have to make sure you keep the thumb hole well sealed - it’s slightly lower than where you would normally rest your thumb – and you have to watch how you use your little finger as a stabilizer, since you can inadvertently stop the C hole by doing so.)

As a D, I like it a lot. It’s quite a powerful whistle, similar in volume to a Water Weasel, but a shade quieter. The tone is more chiffy and pleasing to me than that of the Weasel, so I think it the Overton is going to replace my borrowed WW as the “big gun” I reach for when the pub or session is very noisy. I am also grateful that, unlike the Weasel, it plays a perfectly tuned C-natural using [|oxx-xox] fingering. Unlike the Weasel, though, it’s not tunable. It also needs thorough warming up.

Now I don’t see myself using this whistle to play loads of tunes in C and related keys. If a piper takes out a set of C pipes, I’ll still be reaching for the C whistle.

But what I would like to do is be able to play D-dorian and G-dorian tunes well on the D whistle. After all, if someone launches into “Julia Delaney” in the middle of a set in a session, you don’t see the flute players suddenly fumbling in their bag for a different instrument, but that’s what most whistle players will do!

Anyway I’m having a lot of fun, but I don’t think “Julia Delaney” will be ready for prime time for a little while on this whistle. Trying to incorporate the F-natural fingering (or should that be thumbing), is inducing severe brain confusion. It’s really like playing a completely new instrument.

For example, if you’re going down the scale, to get the F-nat you have to plonk down fingers 5 and 6, but with your opposing thumb completely off the whistle, or at least off its hole. Then, to go from your F-nat to D and back again, you have to use the thumb and 6th finger together, in a kind of pincer motion that is way weird! Trying to play a C-nat/A/F-nat arpeggio sequence in “The Yellow Tinker” blew a cerebral fuse, too.

Another difficulty is remembering to put the thumb back onto its hole when you’ve played an F-nat and start going back up the scale (not to mention remembering to put it back on in its new, lower position).

However, there’s some fun stuff too. It’s easy to get a very satisfying roll on the F natural by cutting in the normal way and tapping with the thumb. Actually I find it easier to slide the thumb across the hole for the tap, which led me to realize I could do a kind of whistler’s version of the “back-D treble” for pipers invented by Paddy Keenan, by sliding the thumb rapidly back and forth over the hole. This works rather well on low and high D, providing an interesting alternative to cranning or tongued trebles!

So there’s a lot of potential with this whistle. But to really make it work is going to require a lot of practice - as I said, it’s almost like being faced with a different instrument. I wonder if I’m up to it…

Steve

BTW there were a couple of other whistles in the parcel from Colin - an A and an F, the latter anodized in a gorgeous shade of purply blue. They are beautifully made instruments, with a huge, rich sound, and a total pleasure to play. Once you start playing them you just don’t want to put them down, for the sheer pleasure of the tone and the response. I’m a complete convert and very happy camper - even if my PWADI</a](http://chiffboard.mati.ca/archive/whistle/23/10227810830499.html">PWADI</a)> has just taken a huge beating!

Mark](http://chiffboard.mati.ca/viewtopic.php?topic=435&forum=1%22%3EMark) J’s post about this whistle.

OH NO! Run everyone… Do not click on the PWADI link above… Rich, can you just delete it now :wink:

Seriously, to see you buy 3 whistles all at once; well I just feel like I need to go and rethink things.

:wink: Erik “My PWADI is less than .1” T

[ This Message was edited by: ErikT on 2001-08-24 18:55 ]

Ha Steve!

Your hooked on Overtons now dude!!

Okay Colin, I’ve gotta have one of those modal jobs, just gotta figure out what color I want…

Loren

[ This Message was edited by: Loren on 2001-08-24 19:03 ]

Stevie,
Thanks for taking the time to give a preliminary assessment of the modal whistle. Sure gives food for thought! (Hmmm, how many pennies do I need to save…?) Very interesting to hear your comments on the other whistles. I have long been considering trying an Overton based on comments here on the board (in particular Loren who is a big fan of Overtons and knows lots!) Now I really want one, or is that two, maybe three…and different colours too…oh dear.
Sue

Speaking of Overtons. I’ve spent a lot of time in the last couple of days with my beloved Overton Low D (Colin Goldie). It’s the most awesome Low D I own. I never get over how amazing the tone is. Loath tho’ I am to name a favorite low D whistle, of the two dozen I own, this would undoubtedly be the last one over the side of Whistle Lifeboat, to use a rather awkward metaphor.

Dale

[ This Message was edited by: DaleWisely on 2001-08-25 20:42 ]

[ This Message was edited by: DaleWisely on 2001-08-26 12:28 ]

Hi again,

I spent most of the weekend playing the modal whistle in sessions down at North Hero, and I’m even more excited about the possibilities.

Fiddle tunes such as Brendan McGlinchey’s “In Splendid Isolation”, which I wouldn’t ever have thought of tackling on a D whistle, turn out to be almost a cinch with this baby! (I knew the tune from fiddle-playing days, and it took only a couple of minutes to figure it out on the new toy.)

Another example - a local fiddler is forever playing a slippy-slidy-sleazy version of Garrett Barry’s jig (as recorded by K. Burke and J. Daly but based I believe on Paddy Canny’s version) that is replete with F-naturals and repeatedly dips down to low C. With the modal whistle, it’s SO easy to play the entire thing, complete with long roll on low F-natural. I was only missing the low A pick up note. (Colin any suggestions?)

The only sour note was the metallic taste in my mouth after hours of playing. This is not good. Despite the assurances of all you in the states who drink numerous soda-pops out of cans every day, I do not believe alumin(i)um is necessarily harmless. Anyone got any good ideas? (And don’t tell me to put nail polish on it please.)


Loren you are probably right, I suspect I might be hooked.

Erik, I know. But 1) only a fool never changes his mind and 2) I’m going to be selling off quite a few whistles displaced by the new acquisitions. If I can’t find buyers for them locally you’ll see them posted here. (BTW although (1) above is true, changing one’s mind does not preclude one’s being a fool.)

Sue I’m sorry if I’m inducing signs of WhoA in you. I can only suggest you try one - not necessarily by ordering one, but by trying someone else’s. They certainly suit me, but I have very definite likes and dislikes, so there’s no guarantee they’d be what you want. One great thing is that Colin will adjust the whistle to your needs, particularly in terms of blowing-pressure, and even of tone.