While she has not been accused of any wrongdoing and is not expected to testify, the trial represents another potentially embarrassing chapter for the senator and her husband, former President Bill Clinton.
I don’t think this rises to anything close to the level of importance of something like Tom DeLay’s illegally funded project to stack the Texas legislature so they could redistrict the state and add enough Republicans to the US House of Representatives to artifically alter the national balance of power.
For what it’s worth, I agree with Jerry and Susan.
I just posted the news article, since there was some question about this story’s reporting (or lack thereof), and possibly some question about who did what and what price they would pay.
“Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”
“Along with Prime Minister (Tony) Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.”
“In halting our airstrikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance – not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed.”
“The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government – a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people.”
“Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down.”
“But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America’s vital interests, we will do so.”
The US has proven that it will lie, fabricate intelligence and do whatever it damn well pleases to illegally invade and occupy another country no matter what the cost in human lives may be.
At least Clinton lived up to his word on the last point and wasn’t the one to actually lie and fabricate intelligence. The Clinton White House wasn’t perfect by a long shot, but the Bush Administration proved capable of the worse kind of deadly deceit.
But, the man who said this (Former President Clinton) did NOT use falsified evidence to bolster his argument to the American People, did NOT choose to thumb the American nose in the face of Allies, and did NOT take us into a war we did NOT need to start in ill-prepared, undermanned, poorly equiped state on false pretenses.
Bush DID.
That makes a whole world of difference.
And, given that Saddam was as ill-equiped to challenge us as the genuine investigative evidence indicated prior to the instigation of tnis war, and as has been proven by the total lack of credible findings to counter them, apparently what we did in cooperation with the much vilified UN DID work.
Was there any deception involved when Clinton bombed Serbia? I honestly don’t remember but thousands of lives were lost. Were all the Allies onboard for that one?
Please note that I did not bring up Clinton’s name. I always get spanked by Bloomfield when I mention the Molester-In-Chief so it wasn’t me…
Wait, let’s go back to the Revolution and talk about THAT one! Clinton is no longer President. In my opinion he was a lousy president who did a lot of stupid things, intentional and otherwise. I voted for him but regretted it. I don’t know and I don’t care about what he did in China or Serbia or wherever.
Bush lied to get us into Iraq – of course it wasn’t supposed to get into all this messy stuff with people dying and everything, it was going to be cakewalk. The Iraqi people were going to rise up and greet us as liberators and everything would just be hunky-dory.
The CURRENT President of the U.S. lied to the nation in order to get us to back an invasion of Iraq. This trumps a lie told by a stupid assistant to a Senator about a stupid fundraiser any day.
THe point is that right here, right now, we have a sitting president who purposely mislead the nation.
Should that be excused, defended, sidestepped, etc. absolving him of all responsibility for that lying?
No.
Should any other lying have been excused, defended, sidestepped, etc., absolving whoever of all responsibility for that lying? No.
The difference is that we have valid proof right here, right now. The question is, what are you going to do about it? Continue to excuse it and point at others who have also lied, or are you going to join the call for responsibility?
I don’t care much for Bush or Clinton, or Kerry for that matter, but I care a great deal about this nation as whole, and I want the acceptance of lying to stop. Now would be better than later.
IRTradRU, you posted an article about an individual who works for HRC who apparently broke the law by misstating money spent on a fundraiser. You expected outrage - or rather wanted to sit back and wait for there to be NO outrage so you could smirk over the lack of outrage.
Others said that there are other things they are more outraged about – as in the CURRENT President lying to the nation about the war we are CURRENTLY engaging in.
It’s frustrating to attempt discuss these two CURRENT affairs when you continue to dredge up past examples of inappropriate or even illegal behavior by other people. Comparing where each president/senator/aide stands on the “ultimate evil” scale is meaningless and ought to be taken up in another thread. Perhaps a poll? “Who was worse…???”
