In the interest of my continued improvement on the whistle, I’ve been compiling a group of tunes that emphasize what seem to me to be relatively difficult uses of C natural. Anybody got any additions they want to make?
Cowboy Jig
Miss Johnson’s
Walsh’s Hornpipe
Madame Bonaparte
An tsean bhean bhocht
Poll Ha’penny
Jenny Picking Cockles
The Scholar
Gusty’s Frolics
The Humours of Whiskey
Bunker Hill
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Bloomfield, does the frightening and intimidating have to do with flogging? I have to tell you, I like you, you’re a nice guy, etc., but I’m not into that stuff (if I knew how to do those little smiley faces, there would be one here with a smiling, yet pained, face).
Jon
Oh, did I say, “have you tried the real flogging”? I meant to say, “have you tried the Flogging Reel.” And if you are not into that sort of thing, what was up with the black latext outfit last Friday night?
You frighten and terrify me because you are always practicing rolls, crans, nasty appregios, and now c-naturals… while I am posting nonsense on Chiff & Fipple and thinking about beer. Over time, you’ll be Jon “Bergin” M and I’ll have determined that I prefer Murphy’s over Guiness and that it’s time finally memorize “Off to California.” Sigh.
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That wasn’t latex; it was leather. (How’s this for an S&M face?)
Anyway, you’ve played music with me; you know that I NEED to practice all that stuff (sigh). Also, I figure that one of the best things about a board like this is that we can pool our resources to make better musicians of us all.
Jon Michaels
P.S. Look! I got one of those faces up. Now I’m happy.
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Yes I am Canadian. And in the sessions we play here in Windsor and the Detroit area, EH! is an in joke amongst us, when an American friend asks what key or such tune is that, we really confuse them by saying EH! My favorite note — EH!
“Everything flows and nothing abides; everything gives way and nothing stays fixed.” Heraclitus.
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So, before things get utterly out of hand (if they haven’t already) does anyone have anything remotely serious to add to this thread? Like tunes?
Jon Michaels
Miss McLeod’s was recommended to me by a sadistic fiddler when I was still a beginner. Part A isn’t so bad but the B part made me cringe. I am currently avoiding learning Geese in the Bog, though I bet it would really sound just like geese if I could get it down. Or maybe it only sounds like geese because I can’t play it!
On 2002-06-04 02:19, Blackbird wrote:
Miss McLeod’s was recommended to me by a sadistic fiddler when I was still a beginner. Part A isn’t so bad but the B part made me cringe. I am currently avoiding learning Geese in the Bog, though I bet it would really sound just like geese if I could get it down. Or maybe it only sounds like geese because I can’t play it!
I’m trying to think… Is there even a c-nat in the B part of Miss McLeod’s? Maybe in the last phrase. Now the A part has some tricky ACBAG like figures in it.
Sorry, Jon, I can’t think of another particularly c-naturally tune. Try transposing …
P.S. Jon, I won’t make it down to the Harp on Friday, June 7, so you can skip the leather suit this week. :roll:
Star of Munster has quite a few C-nats right next to B’s and 2nd octave D’s. I don’t find the tune particularly challenging, though I could see where it might be if you were doing something insane like half-holing the C-nat.
Rakish Paddy depends on loads of C nats being played well. Its a challenge due to the apparent lack of things you can do with this note on the whistle!
re Miss McCloed’s some people play the 1st & 2nd halfs the wrong way round (I play 2gbgDgbg first, but I don’t think either way’s known to be right). The fiddler probably wasn’t being sadistic - it’s an easy tune (at least compared to rakish paddy). I’ll add Pipe on the Hob (I know there are lots of tunes with this name, but this one is a jig starting on a long c natural).
Jo.
Banish Misfortune
The Gold Ring
Humours of Ballylaughlin
Here’s some in the Walton’s TW book:
The Ballydesmond Polka that begins on Cnat
The Knocknagow Reel
Swallow’s Nest starting on A (I play this one starting on B and half-hole the F# instead)
The Pipe on the Hob
Any tune that sustains a Cnat for very long is tough for me because I insist on half-holing–no psycho-analytical remarks Freudian or otherwise please.
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The Soodlum’s Whistle Tutor book 2 comes with a Miss McLeod’s as one of its four reels, so some people out there consider it a viable beginner tune; I’ve also yet to see two settings of McLeod’s that look remotely alike… and I don’t know the tune particularly well… it defeated me once already (it was the first tune I tried to play with a high Eh in it and I haven’t been back since learning the full range of my whistle…) … anyway, I’m sure I’ve seen settings both -with- C naturals in both parts and -without- C naturals in either part, or, at least only one or two…
Hrmmm. Father Kelly’s (1) has C naturals on the beat, but melodically they’re passing notes. The only tune that I can think of where the C natural is an emphasized note both melodically and rhythmically is, of all things, the air to The Wild Rover.
This probably only proves that I don’t know enough tunes, but what else is new? All the other c-naturals I can think of sort of slide by with little emphasis… of course, this may be because I get my settings from a flute player…
I always think tunes that use the notes A, C and E in some arpeggio fashion are hard. The third part of Humors of Ennystymon is an example of an Irish tune. A Shetland tune is Sleep Soond Ida Mornin. A New England (?) example is The Growling Old Man and Woman Grumbling Old Woman.
And have you tried the Flogging Reel yet?
(How’s this for an S&M face?)
