Now that we know the Vpipes actually exist, I propose a new forum called the Chip and Dipple for electronic instruments and the bagless people that play them. Plugged in for your pleasure.
Luddite
finally a forums for my techno-folk synthisiser stylings! Bring it on.
actually no. some music should never leave the bedroom.
2nd Luddite
and no 3 luddite is definatly uilliam 
Are you dissing the master, Barry White??
Shame on you
Oh, come, now. What better atmosphere for heightened expectations in the boudoir than a cassette tape of “Love’s Theme”, a couple of glasses of White Zinfandel, the scent of hair mousse, and a water bed? Those WERE the days. Have you no nostalgia in you?
And yes. I think it should stay, if stay it must, in the bedroom. Hearing its subtly lubricious strains played in the supermarket while I’m inspecting the bread or seeking out the cat litter is just on so many levels of wrong.
We are o course talking VPipes the noo aren’t we ,couldna agree more.It is only a matter o time I fear afore we hear em everywhere.Lifts, shopping malls, toilets. The future is bleak. I predict that as numero 3 luddite.How I quite got there is beyond me as Luddites didnae have a hierachy ,one for all and all for one.Wi the exception of King Ludd but even he belived in equality hence the wearing o male and female apparel.
Uilliam
Nnnnnnot exactly, but there’s no reason you couldn’t expand on the theme. And you did! Brought us back on topic doing it, too.
…he said from his peat-fired computer.
.Luddites didnae have a hierachy one for all and all for one.
I think your confused with the Three musketers
No your a Luddite, tis a good thing you were not around when some pipe maker came up with the concert d pitch, you’d have burned him at the stake.
Your real name isn’t Mathew Hopkins is it?
Luddite numero uno, here (aka: Jose’ Scotte’ Este’, hair designer to the stars!)
I didn’t want to burn anyone at the stake with my post, but the latest vpipe threads seems to me to be getting pretty far-removed from anything remotely related to authentic uilleann piping, and I find them rather boring to watch and listen to as well. I have to admit I was interested in the v-pipes when I first heard about them years ago, and I still think that they could be a valuable practice tool for those who live with others, like my spouse, who is none to thrilled with my piping. One can argue that they are a musical instrument, in that they allow the expression of art through sound, blah blah blah… The v-pipe is an electronic instrument It is not uilleann pipes. How about a separate forum for these kinds of topics…
Back to the hair studio…
Good question. As I see it - at this time - vPipes are intentionally so closely analogous to the real deal (fingering, performance goals, what have you) that it’s hard for me to see justifying a separate forum. To my thinking it would not be unlike forming a separate forum for practice chanters away from a GHB forum because they’re bagless and have plastic reeds. I don’t see the value in it. Yet. And, this would have to be Dale’s call. Everyone’s votes here would count toward informing such a decision, though.
At this time, of course there’s a lot of noise and notice; they’re the new kid on the block. I’d be terribly surprised if the excitement didn’t simmer down as it usually does with anything else (MY excitement has died down by now, FWIW), and moreover I believe that few if any would seriously think to cast aside real pipes for electronic at the end of the day. Plus I’m willing to go out on a limb and suggest that if you took a poll, vPipes owners would be far in the minority to the rest of the community.
Actually, a forum devoted to the use of technology including various virtual instruments like the vPipes and my and other developer’s apps for various platforms might be a very good idea. The same forum could also host discussions on recording equipment, software, sampling systems, etc.
It would provide a single point for those interested in the subject to have an open discussion and would avoid all the conflict that seems to arise when discussions of vPipes or iPad/iPhone apps get interspersed with discussions on the acoustic instruments. As more instruments and apps are developed, the conflicts will only increase.
I certainly don’t feel like I have a place here where I can talk about what I’m developing anymore except for my once-a-month commercial posts for fear of being assaulted by those who have no interest in what I’m doing. I would welcome such a new forum, it certainly would be at least as active as, for example, the concertina board.
Cheers,
Michael
Naw I am not confused wi anything ma wee friend, unlike yersel ,ye seem to be confusing VPipes wi Real Pipes.The Muskateers had a comradely and fraternal policy o unity hence the motto as did the Luddites .They were early Trade Unionists and I am proud to be a Luddite.I am no witchfinder and I think ye better take note o the 1st person policy and ease aff on the personal attacks which could be offensive to witches.
As fer transferring this whole piece of electronic wizardry to a new forum ..no need. It could and should go to the Musical Genre Hybridization Forum,although wether they would welcome ye or not is another question.E is quite right to be wary of posting too much fer fear o being ridiculed.
Slán Agat
Uilliam
In my (slang) language “bagless people” has a pretty obscene meaning: (Male) people that have no scrotum/no balls ~ people who obey to absolutely everything.
Thankye for that illumination Hans…
Uilliam
well i will boldy venture a relevant thought and say;
seeing a myriad number of unstoppable battery-pipes on the horizon;
the crucial issue is,
and the CRUCIAL issue is,
that technique and repertoire be transferred as precisely as possible from the acoustic instrument 
to the electronic one 
.
& Im saying this about EVERY e-pipe:
Nothing is worse than seeing a whistle, sax, recorder, or flute player plug in & pick up an elec-pipe, and perform a song sans gracenotes, as un-piperly as possible, using a bagpipe timbre.
The challenge (and responsibility) as I see it, is for e-pipemakers to insure that their inventions operate on the same exact complex principles that a reeded pipe does, requiring the same level of technical ability, expertise, study, and capability from the piper.
Because if yous drop the ball on that, every fool that can plop a grand on an e-pipe will not make the effort to learn what gives pipes their unique voice, and the soul of piping will melt into some general, incoherant vaugely woodwindish melting pot.
Like a synth player using a sax patch.
CHasR’s comment is an example of why I think we should consider a separate forum for virtual instruments.
Any discussion of virtual instruments in this forum will be inevitably colored by comments along the line of “not as good as the real thing/who would want these?/this shouldn’t be discussed here/put those things in the trash bin” rather than those who are interested in them for their own purposes being able to discuss them without others who have no interest in such things expressing how they shouldn’t exist.
At least if it were a separate forum, we could discuss the vPipes and other technological innovations on their own merits, share observations, techniques, ideas for future devices, etc. without distracting from the main theme of this forum which is the Uilleann pipes in their original acoustic form.
The problem with this is that there is no one that could ever regulate this. I know a benefit is the ablilty to use headphones and play without bothering your sleeping family, but I see applications to do the opposite, ie plug into an amp and crank it up. Now you can play in a rock band and run around the stage like all the other instruments, only pausing for a moment to get the bottom of the chanter against another band member so you can jump the octive.
Just like the electric guitar, it has the opportunity to independently evolve. I believe there were also those who didn’t like the idea of electric guitars when they came out, and if my memeory serves me, Andres Segovia, the great classical guitarist did not consider it to even be a guitar.