OT: A Modest and (possibly Un-) Reasonable Proposal

Anyone else have this experience:

You’re reading one of the excellent threads here on C&F, revelling in the discussion, composing your own thoughts to submit your astounding knock-'em-on-the-head argument, when suddenly the thread veers wildly off-topic, into realms not even remotely related to the initial subject of discussion. Shortly thereafter, the thread dies, even if both the main topic and the side topic it generated are worthy of more exploration. The thread just can’t sustain two topics, something must give, and so the heart of the thread stops beating, and the thing just dies there, just as it was hitting its stride. Or you can never locate an interesting thread again, because the subject title is so unrelated to the subsequent content that you can’t find the thing again.

Also this:

You point a friend or a beginner or a fellow musician to C&F, thinking they might enjoy the discussion there, and later they tell you, “Yeah, it seemed interesting, but just as I was learning about rolls, a huge argument about (abortion/sexuality/politics) started and it just got really weird, so I don’t think I’ll check in anymore.”

Maybe it’s just me. Probably it is. But if it’s not, what I propose is this: when the thread you are reading ignites in your mind an unrelated topic, start a new topic on that subject, rather than hijacking the current thread with your brilliant (and sometimes they are brilliant, or at least very shiny) idea. That way, a thread about rolls is likely to stay more or less about rolls. A thread about animal rights is likely to stay more or less about animal rights. A thread about sexuality will remain more or less about sexuality. A thread about the relative merits of various whistles (or politicians) is likely . . . and so on.

And our wonderful ideas about whatever-it-is are much nore likely to get the attention they deserve, and from people who are actually interested in the subject at hand. People who are interested in the music will be able to read about the music without having a heart attack when I suggest that eating meat may not be the best thing one can do for the world, or when Cranberry opens his heart on a touchy subject, or when Nano makes those weird noises he makes when he’s sitting in the corner over there, rocking back and forth.

Not to say that divergences and jokes and asides are unwelcome, because clearly we all love those. Just this: if you think your subject is worthy of considered discussion, then start a new thread, rather than hijack someone else’s thread. It’d sure be easier to find and follow threads, and to participate more fully in the discussions, if we all did that. My thought is we’d have just as many varied discussions as we do now, but maybe be able to engage in them even more fully. And we won’t frighten off new and potentially valuable members who run when they see what happens to some very interesting threads. There’s a danger in becoming too cliquish with established members and alienating new blood.

Or maybe not. I’m probably just cranky today.

There, there. It will be all right.

Jeez, Herbi–I call you reasonable and it goes to your head. :stuck_out_tongue:

Actually, I will take your proposals to heart. Thing is, we just love squabbling so!

agrees

Nice idea. Well done.

Aw, hell, I take it back. George Bush sucks, homosexuality is fine by me, killing animals is generally bad, my wife is prettiest, everyone else’s religion is wrongheaded, and I like plain t-shirts best (none of this commercial advertising, loud-graphics crap for me, thanks). Rolls aren’t as hard as you think (except rolls on B, of course). Sheet music is for wimps, except when I use it, and then it’s only for, you know, refreshing my memory. It’s lovely to see pelicans flying low over the water at the ocean’s edge, all pteradactyl-looking and graceful.

And I think clouds are pretty. And I . . . hey, who are these men and why are they trying to drag me away from the keyboa

Yes, your wife is pretty darn pretty!

:slight_smile:

Is this thread about sex, violence, politicking or health? I got lost in the turn, where is the map?

Quote @ herbivore12

It’s lovely to see pelicans flying low over the water at the ocean’s edge, all pteradactyl-looking and graceful.

Where did that come from?

The rest of it made sense to you? Wha’? Was just making a point about thread drift . . .

It came from nowhere, and the fact that pelicans are one of my favorite birds, and fly so beautifully just inches abve the water on the faces of waves (they use the lift generated in the updraft over a wae’s face), and remind me of pteradactyls with their broad wings and long heads. Raising baby pelicans is one of my favorite tasks, when we get orphans. They are delightful and playful creatures, young pelis . . .

But now see? See where this thread is going? Aaaahhhhh!!!

That’s my point. Sort of. More or less. Thanks, everyone.

It just occurred to me that Herbi did an awesome compression of a lot of Chiffer’s personal styles. I won’t say who the pelican comment reminds me of. :wink:

:wink:

Don’t ask, don’t tell. Glad it wasn’t wasted effort!

I agree. You’ve got my vote. Thanks for the reminder Aaron. There is always going to be someone who has alterior motives, or craves something a little more dramatic, or tries to make it personal, or can’t handle the light of truth coming through. Almost inevitably, they will intentionally try to derail the topic at hand, or shut it down. We shouldn’t encourage them. Someone did this on the other thread, knowing full well what the reaction would be. Cranberry had to defend the acusation, once it was made. Silence could have been interpreted as agreement. If someone does that to me, I’ll just say, hey we’re talking about such and such right now, but if you’d like to step out in the street for a quick moment…I’d be happy to examine your teeth. :smiley:

Am I in there? I better not be, or I will eat yo…uh…nevermind. :laughing:

Anyway, I know who the “my wife is prettiest” is. Don’t we all? :roll:

Does the pelican one start with lilymai?

HEY!!! :angry:

…I missed that. Should I consider my fingers rapped? :wink:

We had gone on for 12 pages about porpoises, animals,
and vegetarians. Time to talk about sex!

Yes, you are.

Anyway, I know who the “my wife is prettiest” is. Don’t we all? :roll:

A number of possibilities come to mind.

Does the pelican one start with lilymai?

I hadn’t thought of that. So, no.

For the record, I don’t get involved in political OR religious threads at all anymore. I do, however, like to show people what’s going on with me, but not because I want to brag, just because I want to share. I like when other people share, too.

I think the sharing is cool, Jessie. Ditto for me on religion and politics (except for when I want to make weird noises, heh). I don’t have the academic background for it all, anyway. I like Jim’s suggestion!