Are Chieftain whistles in any way associated with the group the Chieftains? I figured that they had to be, but now I get the impression that they are not.
John Mac
No. There is no association between Chieftain whistles and the Chieftains. It’s just one more example of the maker of Chieftains seeking to benefit from the work of others.
Best,
Chris
They’re fine whistles with just a slight identity problem. I’m sure someone else will answer your question more factually, but awgad I hope your posting won’t begin a new war here! And that I won’t be caught with the following match in my hand…
I recently suggested to a renowned drainpipesmith whom I certainly won’t name that he should baptize his next whistle line Planxty, and the beginner’s model just Clare. Like, “So there!”, to get even.
But no, he’s the modest kind. This is why he’ll probably reject as well my Gold-D brand suggestion. Don’t ask me the why, since I’m not here to drop names. So better ask Brigitte 
Jokes aside, it’s not easy to brand a product. You can’t be shy with marketing; the primary task of a business is to succeed. If Chieftain was there to grab for a whistle’s name, the first one to do it was right. And Acme was already taken, even for (llaughing) whistles 
Mmm yes, I’m sure it would be quite fair enough to go ahead and name a guitar the “Who” or “Rolling Stones” brand, eh Z?
Loren
Loren, we’re talking trad. So it’ll have to be Acme Stones, or Planxty Who. OK, Planxty Zubivka, if you prefer. Go ahead, I’m not proud.
BbZH
[ This Message was edited by: Zubivka on 2002-10-30 18:03 ]
Hey Loren, the magazine Rolling Stone named itself after the group.
I have responsibility for naming products at the company where I work. I select a group of creative types and we describe the product’s uses, then start getting crazy. It’s great fun. Several times we have copied names from hair products at the drug store. It’s allowable, as long as your product is not like their product. So we have Clarion gear oil, and Matrix grease.
On 2002-10-30 18:43, E = Fb wrote:
Hey Loren, the magazine Rolling Stone named itself after the group.
Touche!
However that doesn’t mean that the naming of the magazine wasn’t a shameless attempt to capitalize on the band’s success.
I suppose, in the end, what Chris and I are getting at is that it all comes down to a matters of integrity and class: Some people will do anything to make a buck…
Loren
Well, if you can have Les Paul guitars and Bach Strad trumpets…
–James
http://www.flutesite.com
The ULTIMATE Idea:
Name a whistle as “My”.
So I’ll be playing My whistle, they’ll be playing My whistle, everyone will be playing My whistle.
Or for more confusion, name it “Their”
Person A: 'scuse me, what whistle are you playing?
Person B: Oh, I’m playing their whistle, and they are playing my whistle.
Person A: ???
I was drivin to work this morning after reading the latest C&F stuff and happened to hear Led Zepplin’s “Ramble On” and heard the following line.
“T’was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair. But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her”. And then I remembered that “Battle of Evermore” mentions things like Ringwraiths.
Hmm..I guess those guys were ‘seeking to benefit from the work of others’. :roll:
On 2002-10-30 22:37, peeplj wrote:
Well, if you can have Les Paul guitars and Bach Strad trumpets…–James
http://www.flutesite.com
Les Paul actually had a hand in the design of the guitars, so that was reasonable. I have no idea if JSB made trumpets (perhaps it was PDQ…)
On 2002-10-31 11:01, Wandering_Whistler wrote:
I was drivin to work this morning after reading the latest C&F stuff and happened to hear Led Zepplin’s “Ramble On” and heard the following line.“T’was in the darkest depths of Mordor, I met a girl so fair. But Gollum, and the evil one crept up and slipped away with her”. And then I remembered that “Battle of Evermore” mentions things like Ringwraiths.
Hmm..I guess those guys were ‘seeking to benefit from the work of others’. :roll:
Show me the man who can hit on a girl without ‘seeking to benefit from the work of others’? Consider the movie, the music in the background, I won’t even mention the conversation…
“Whistle-Wraith?”
And if a whistle maker capitalizes on Lunasa they could call their low whistle… yup, you guessed it, the Lownasa. Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Cheers,
Aaron
On 2002-11-01 18:30, Bloomfield wrote:
Show me the man who can hit on a girl without ‘seeking to benefit from the work of others’? Consider the movie, the music in the background, I won’t even mention the conversation…
Uhmm…you lost me somewhere. I have no idea what you’re talking about.
I think Bloomfield has finally “gone round the bend.” 
On 2002-10-30 22:37, peeplj wrote:
Well, if you can have Les Paul guitars and Bach Strad trumpets…–James
http://www.flutesite.com
Ahh, but Les Paul actually developed the first one for Gibson and gave them permission to use his name! Not sure if he got adequately compensated, but he did agree to the deal.
John
I think Les Paul struck his deal with Epiphone, and then Gibson bought out Epiphone. Whatever the case, it was a product and brand name choice that Les Paul approved.
Rolling Stone (the magazine) and The Rolling Stones were both named after the Willie Dixon song popularized by Muddy Waters. I don’t think Willie or Muddy could have copyrighted or trademarked the name, though, because they obviously picked it up from the proverb, “A rolling stone gathers no moss.”
Keith Richards is definitely starting to look a little mossy, though, don’t you think?
On 2002-11-02 23:38, jim_mc wrote:
I think Les Paul struck his deal with Epiphone, and then Gibson bought out Epiphone. Whatever the case, it was a product and brand name choice that Les Paul approved.Rolling Stone (the magazine) and The Rolling Stones were both named after the Willie Dixon song popularized by Muddy Waters. I don’t think Willie or Muddy could have copyrighted or trademarked the name, though, because they obviously picked it up from the proverb, “A rolling stone gathers no moss.”
Keith Richards is definitely starting to look a little mossy, though, don’t you think?
Les Paul guitars were on the market well before Gibson bought out Epiphone. I don’t have the exact dates handy but Gibson Les Pauls were available from the early fifties and Gibson didn’t buy out Epiphone until the late fifties or early sixties. Les Paul definitely had a hand in the development of the guitar although how much of a hand varies with the person telling the story. It’s quite possible that he had a major hand because he did ground-breaking work in developing recording techniques.
You’re quite right about the origin of the ‘Rolling Stones’ name; I’m surprised it took until page 2 of this thread for someone to point that out since the song is very well-known. The Stones first 3 albums consist mostly of cover versions as does the Who’s first album. To describe Keith Richards as ‘looking mossy’ lately has to be the understatement of the year—I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone still alive look worse.
Keith Richards is still alive? I thought they had him stuffed and were wheeling him out on a cart.
John Mac