An "in the clear" question for Dale

Dale, most of your policies are clear and easy to follow. One “gray area” that I’d like to address, however, is that of responding to reviews, when some technical issue is raised therein, either by the reviewer, or further posts. Trying to formulate The Question was a bit difficult, but it comes like this: Do you consider it within the realm of (C&F) propriety for a maker to respond to questions or comments about technical issues with his/her product, directly in the thread in which such questions/comments were stated?

The reason I ask, is that it’s what I’ve been doing. So far, nobody has taken me to task for it, but I also know there are some who enjoy poking the dogs of war here on occasion, and I’d like to have an up-front statement from you as to whether you consider such commentary an impropriety.

Thanks for C&F, especially, and for your attention to this “detail”!
Cheers,
Bill Whedon, Serpent Music

Apologies for ‘butting in’.

On 2003-01-25 09:55, serpent wrote:
Dale, most of your policies are clear and easy to follow. One “gray area” that I’d like to address, however, is that of responding to reviews, when some technical issue is raised therein, either by the reviewer, or further posts. Trying to formulate The Question was a bit difficult, but it comes like this: Do you consider it within the realm of (C&F) propriety for a maker to respond to questions or comments about technical issues with his/her product, directly in the thread in which such questions/comments were stated?

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Bill Whedon, Serpent Music

Provided the response is about the technical issues, I think that a response might be a good thing. It’s how we learn about things, and enable us to make decisions.

My 2p (4 cents ? ) worth :slight_smile:

I agree. I’ve had more than one “technical question” answered here in the forums before I got around to contacting the maker myself. Saved time and also allowed me to get answers to questions I wondered about but about which I didn’t want to bother the maker
Seeing the makers answers to asked or implied questions has also helped me be a better informed whistle purchaser and much of the knowledge is transferrable to other makers’ whistles.

jim

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I think a lot of it depends upon the tone of the question and the tone of the answer.

If I ask a question like “Ragnarokie, what’s the truest fingering for C-natural on your latest whistles,” then I think we all agree PLEASE answer, and in the thread, where everyone who looks for the info has a shot of finding it. Also, a comment in a review like “On my new WonderSquawk Deluxe ™ I can’t seem to find a fingering that gives a really true C-natural” then essentially that’s the same question in statement form, and I think responding in the thread would be a favor for all of us.

What gets dicier is when the question is more like “Why do all SquawkenBlitz ™ whistles sound so horrible?” Then the maker is probably best advised to just not respond at all, as any answer is going to make him or her just look defensive. Also, probably within a few hours of the question, you would find five or six folks posting replies like “Hey! I just love my SquawkenBlitz ™–maybe you dinna know how to play it right!!!”

A final note: sending an evaluation whistle for review to someone that you know hates your whistles and always will is a mistake and a waste of a whistle. This isn’t pointed at any specific situation, just a general thought for the future.

Best wishes,

–James
http://www.flutesite.com

I agree with PeepleJ.

If a specific issue is addressed in an inquisitve fashion, answer it. Mike Burke did that about dislodged “O-rings” I believe.

But if its just a put-down without thought or care, to answer it keeps it at top of page 1, doesn’t it?

I believe many Chiffsters let stuff descend naturally when content is thoughtless and needlessly confrontational.

And regarding flame-wars on threads, I read a great quote yesterday at another site:

“Arguing on the Internet is like racing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.”

Yes, I know its neither PC nor accurate because many in SO are physically disabled but the point was so well put…

OMG… I have to rephrase that – and me a (former) kickboxing instructor… :astonished:

Arguing on C&F is like participating in a boxing match. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

Spoken by a former retard… in both senses
serpent
~*~ :wink: Serpie-Pie

First, I should apologize. There really aren’t very many rules on C&F and the ones that exist are somewhat vague. And, I don’t always do a good job of enforcing the ones we have! As many have pointed out, I think the community rocks along pretty well with the current system (or lackt thereof). In my spare time (har!) I’m working with some members of the board on a back channel to try to make some improvements in the area of clarifying rules a bit more.

I caused a bit of a stir when I posted a suggestion a month or so ago that I thought it was unseemly for whistlemakers to participate in threads about their own products. I still think that is often true, although this is an example of why hard & fast rules don’t always work very well. There have been examples cited in this thread about how the participation of a whistle maker in a thread about his or her own products can be helpful.

While I struggle for a way to be clearer about all of this, let me just say that I think the answer to your question is that it is certainly ok to respond to technical and more-or-less factual questions on the board. Overall, I think it helps inform the community.

Thanks,

Dale

well, I still think dale is an anarchist at heart :laughing: btw, great answer peeplj


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