Please don’t get your knickers in a twist. I wasn’t offended–although, admittedly, I’m hard to offend.
But a couple of people pointed out that it’s a family site and it was just a bit much.
Thanks,
Dale
Please don’t get your knickers in a twist. I wasn’t offended–although, admittedly, I’m hard to offend.
But a couple of people pointed out that it’s a family site and it was just a bit much.
Thanks,
Dale
Families shouldn’t know about animal abuse?
I’ll say it again: poor chicken.
Yes… poor chicken!
You might make a lawyer out of yourself some day, Cran. The presentation was one of gawkers at a crash, rather. I don’t recall much in the way of discussing animal abuse, do you? For that matter, if you said “poor chicken” in that thread, I don’t recall it, although I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt despite the rest of your playing along with the thread drift later on in it.
The point was morbid curiosity, not right or wrong.
Flame me.
The thread may have been National Enquirer-ish in it’s mood, but it shouldn’t have been. A real chicken was actually assaulted and KILLED. Anytime a chicken (or any person or animal) is assaulted (sexually or otherwise), it’s a horrible thing.
BTW, I played along with the xxxchurch link, not the assault on the innocent chicken.
Edited to add, before it’s brought up, that yes it’s also a tragedy that the man involved killed himself. But that was his choice. It was not the chicken’s choice to be so brutally treated.
I had the most AWESOME chicken stir fry last night at the local Chinese Buffet restaurant! Oh MAN it was juicy. I also had General Tsao’s chicken, sesame chicken, and a chicken based soup. MMmmmmmm
Great stuff!!!
You liar, you said the stir fry wasn’t very good. I remember you couldn’t even FIND the chicken in it. And when did you have soup?
Now the sesame chicken, that WAS good. But pass me the cold water before I start on the General Tsao’s next time!
Really, wheat gluten’s the way to go…if you’re not allergic.
I feel bothered by your response, Brian. I know many people who don’t think twice about eating animals, yet they don’t exactly feel good, and certainly are not arrogant, about taking animals’ lives when they are given an opportunity to think twice about it. It’s really hard for me to understand a reply like this. I recognize these are just my feelings and that yours are very different. I’m sure I’ve posted things that have bothered some people too.
Carol
What chicked thread? Was it about the chicken guy that you could tell to do things, or is this something completely different?
-Brett
Very good, Carol.
I can’t eat meat but be impressed each time that a life was taken for it. It doesn’t stop me, though. I find myself thinking that it’s as reasonable a balance as can be hoped for under the circumstances: the remembrance and expectation of my own karma for it, and the remembrance and honoring the fact that a life was taken.
I’m not sure exactly why I posted this, but you struck a chord with me.
To the vegans among you out there, I must seem positively demonic.
Completely different, read Cranberry’s comments above to get some idea.
Since the human animal was designed to eat meat you’re right - I don’t think twice about it. There’s a large percentage of us who are also just as bothered by all the vegan/vegetarian types who seem to feel the need to speak their mind (read: preach) every chance they get about how morally wrong it is and how cruel it is ad nauseum.
People will always eat meat. If you personally choose not to great! But PLEASE just quit preaching to the rest of us about how bad it is to kill a cute little fluffy chicken in the name of sustenance. If you’re trying to change our lives it just ain’t gonna happen. We let you choose what to and not to eat and we have the same right.
Now, I’m off to the pizza store to grab my meal - which once again - contains dead animal parts. Seeing as how some day we all end up as worm food ourselves, I don’t loose sleep over it.
Just wondering if a person could make a ‘G’ whistle from a chicken drumstick bone? ![]()
There’s a big difference between swiftly killing a bird intended for food and molesting it.
Eating meat doesn’t bother me, I do it myself, and humans the world over have been eating meat to some degree or another since the days of homo habilis or earlier, but inflicting pointless harm on an animal is just, well, pointless…
Brian, that humans are biologically “meant” to eat meat is a point of great debate. I personally feel that humans are probably biologicially “meant” to get by on a largely (though not completely) vegetarian diet, based on numerous factors that have been discussed on this forum many times before.
However, you are also biologically “meant” to reproduce with as many young females as possible, it is the very fact that you are HUMAN that allows you to choose not to.
Think about it.
edited for clarity
Quote @ TelegramSam
There’s a big difference between swiftly killing a bird intended for food and molesting it.
I agree with that.
OK so all the sharp canine teeth humans are born with are made just for grinding up plants then? along with all the specialized bacteria we have to digest meat?
Anyway, I never said molesting a chicken was a ‘good’ thing to do either, nor even really wise. But it struck me to be funny as hell. Still does. Does this guy get a place in the Darwin awards then?
First, humans aren’t born with teeth at all. Second, this issue and similar issues have been discussed multiple times on this very forum. If I was bored I could go into it in depth again, but I really don’t want to.
Oh please, sweety…not that tired old “sharp canine teeth” argument! Humans have PATHETIC canines! Compare them even to those of the herbivorous gorilla…there’s no way you can tear raw meat (or rip out the throat of a gazelle) with those! Most herbivorous species have vestigal “canines” or eye teeth. Our eye teeth are no sharper than our incisors, and our jaw muscles are way too weak to masticate meat that hasn’t been cooked or ground soft, other than, perhaps, certain organs.
I’m not going to get into the whole “humans were/weren’t meant to eat meat argument,” but if you are, you need to rely on more than that old, tired “we have canines, therefore we are carnivores” argument. Look at the entire system…the digestive system, the ability to manufacture and process certain nutrients, etc. That will tell you a lot more about what humans were meant to eat than simple dentition. Most likely, we were intended to live on a diet similar to that of most primates…mostly herbivorous, but not eschewing meat when it became available. Omnivores with a bias toward herbivorous food, if you will (as opposed to, say, a bear, which is omnivorous with a slight bias toward carnivorous foods).
Two interesting animal-world factoids:
One of the world’s best-loved herbivores, the Giant Panda, has the dentition and digestive system of a carnivore. Nevertheless, somewhere
along the line, the panda evolved to the point where it needs to live on bamboo.
The largest canine teeth in the world are worn by the largest vegetarian in the world…the African elephant.
Redwolf