What would tempt you into changing job?

I’m pretty happy in my job. Only been here for 15 months and I’m quite good at it. However career prospects are fairly limited (small, specialist department with not a lot of transferable skills to other departments) and the money isn’t great (currently going through an appeals process after a re-grading excercise went against me).

Now I wasn’t thinking about changing jobs but my girlfriend told me about a couple of jobs she was going to apply for so I went online to have a look at them and in the process spotted a different job that’s really got me thinking. It’s more money, better prospects, more varied work and using more of my skills and experience. However it sounds like it would be back to more of a straight support role while I’m currently in more of a research and development role with some support.

Haven’t decided what I’m going to yet and the closing date isn’t for a couple of weeks so I’m going to have a good think about it.

In the meantime what would tempt you into applying for a new job?

Location: would it offer considerable savings on my current monstrous commute?

Benefits: Right now I can take free evening classes (I work at a university), have a reasonable amount of flexible working hours, and get a good amount of holiday. Would the new job match or exceed these?

Facilities and surroundings: Are the kitchen facilities for staff? Social facilities? Exercise rooms? Someplace to relax at lunchtime? Are there any nice places to walk at lunchtime in good weather?

Are there opportunities for advancement in a direction I would like to go?

Are the people nice to work with? Are there any people at my current job who I would particularly like to get away from?

Is the end product of the new job (whether it be a service, a market item, a website or whatever) something that I would be proud to be a part of?

Speaking hypothetically:

Commute would be a big one. Maybe one of the biggest. Bigger than pay, unless the pay thing was enormous.

Liking the people would be a top priority.

Autonomy would be the third item on the topmost tier of factors for consideration.

Money would be a big factor that would influence me to change jobs, but that’s not the only influence.
Location is big for me; I live about six miles from work right now, and that makes life easier and less costly. It’s somewhere between difficult and impossible to use public transit to get to one’s place of employment unless one lives/works downtown or close to a train station, so it’s not like back when I lived in Vancouver; distance really wasn’t as big a factor because I could, nine times out of ten, count on reliable transportation to and from work. If I received a job offer back in Vancouver that offered an equivalent paycheck I’d take it in a hearbeat, but that’s more of a personal issue for me right now (read, I really, really, really dislike where I’m living right now but can’t break away just yet).
Work hours are another big motivator for me; I strongly dislike having to divide my life between sleeping and working.
Also, living in the US, another major factor that might influence me to change my job would be the benefits package I would receive (various insurances, whot not…). As I have been most unfortunate to discover, one can make a very good income, but if one happens to be caught momentarily without health insurance, the healthcare industry will break you without mercy.
If one’s benefits package is large enough, one can get by with a smaller wage than one might with a larger income and a smaller benefits package, or at least it used to be so. It’s becoming harder and harder to find employer-participating benefits packages that the employee doesn’t end up paying nearly 100% for anyways. That’s one of the reasons I’ve stayed at my current job for as long as I have, dispite some halfway decent job offers in my current field of study.

Unfortunately, at least for people in similar situations as I’ve found myself in, one must be extra cognisant of the multiple pros and cons while weighing options for job change, because what looks like a great change one day could be crippling in the future.

You get free evening classes? Oh man, we suck. The best I get here is cheap (as in you still have to pay) membership to the university’s big sports centre.

For me, not much. More money would be nice, and less silly paperwork–not that I’m going to find that second thing in this country–but check this out: I teach little kids how to sing and play instruments. I am allowed–and encouraged to have!–a great deal of flexibility and creativity in exactly how I go about that. I work with creative, fun people. My boss and I don’t always see exactly eye-to-eye, but he’s really an incredibly cool guy who cares about the kids and his teachers. I have an adequate budget. Practicing the guitar is considered part of my job. Every year or two I get to go somewhere (usually somewhere warm!) for really fun professional training. I get summers off to garden/fish/goof off in the mountains. And I get knee-hugs from short people pretty much every day.

And they pay me for this. Life is good.

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Nah. I’ll stay put.

I like my work and I’m very good at it. The money’s ok and getting better and I have a fairly exciting new project to manage (part of which involves working on a mandolin website!).

I have some good friends at this company - two of whom are in my band!

Been here 5 years, reckon I could do another 5, no sweat.

To quote Badger, Life is good.

That’s something actually. I’ll miss some of the friends I’ve made in this job. And I do have quite a lot of freedom, the timekeeping is lax, I don’t have to write every half hour of my day to a timesheet (unlike many IT roles) and I can knock off an hour early on a Friday and no-one cares.

Doubt I’d get away with that in this other job.

But the money is crap here and doesn’t look like improving anytime soon. There’s also very little upward movement unless you’re an academic. Not that I’m particularly ambitious but I don’t see much of a progression from this role. It’s also likely to become more about learning and fluffy academic concepts like pedagogy instead of useful skills I know about like programming, databases and server support.

Maybe I’ll make up a list of good things and bad things about both jobs.

Although top of that list would still be the £4000-£5000 difference in pay…

Before or after tax?

My uni gives 50% discounts to staff (and students) on evening classes, and my manager is very pro-continuing-education and coughs up the other half. I can pretty much take something every term. I’m in Japanese 2 right now :slight_smile:

But, the commute is 1.5 hours each way. :confused: Depending on the other factors, I might be willing to give up the classes for a shorter commute!

That’s a yikes.

The one thing that would cause me to think of switching is location. I live where there’s almost zero sense of community. Unfortunately, in my field there are damn few jobs in rural areas, where I’m most comfortable. Beyond the location, I love my job. It’s interesting, meaningful, I like my co-workers. But I don’t like the burbs.

Getting SACKED. :swear:


One small step for man
One giant leap for manki…oh my god look what I’ve stepped in…

Been there, done that - and everytime I’ve left what was supposed to be a “permanent” job it was because I was totally fed up with playing the stupid games and dealing with the other employees. Which is why my pay has been steadily going down with each job instead of increasing with each job.

I started right out of high school with some fairly decent clerk-typist jobs, but they were temporary.

Then when I was 21 I landed in directory assistance at the phone company. When I first started, they didn’t use computers - we had huge paper phone books that were reprinted monthly with updates every few days, and the average work time was 35 seconds. That was, we were allowed 35 seconds to answer the call, find out what the customer wanted, find the correct number, and tell it to the customer. And wait while they got paper and pencil. And repeat it four or five times because the kids were screaming and the TV was blaring away and they were too drunk to remember what we said anyway. I stayed in that job for 13 years, going from making around $200 a week to making about $450 a week, with 3 weeks vacation and medical and dental benefits.

Still staying with the phone company, I transferred to an office job. After a couple of years, I had my baby and I wanted to work just part time, but the manager said “that’s not the way we do things here.” So I got mad and quit.

We tried living on my husband’s profits from the used book store, but that didn’t work. So I tried selling Tupperware. 30% commission on the sales doesn’t go far when you constantly have to buy new products to have to show your customers.

Took a job as a telemarketer for about a month. That sucked. Quit.

Went back to the phone company as a term temp in directory assistance, and after 2 years they laid off all the term temps. They did pay for retraining, because they knew they were going to be closing the Spokane office soon.

Went to college and got an AAS degree in “greenhouse/nursery management” - which landed me a grunt job in a local nursery watering the plants.

The phone company was hiring more term temps for directory assistance again, so I went back for the money. They only kept the term temps for 6 months this time.

Then I got a temporary job with the Census Bureau doing the background work to prepare for the census.

After that ended, I drifted into medical transcription. I orginally was hired as their courier, then one day the manager asked me to type a psych report because that was so simple anyone could do it, even without medical terminology training. Was there for almost 5 years. Got paid by the line and had to type pretty much 9 hours a day without even taking a lunch break to make any money. My eyes were getting worse and worse, and I never got compliments, I was only told every picky little thing I did wrong. Finally blew up and quit.

Took a job calling people to conduct surveys, but between having to work with ex-junkies and lie to the people we called, I got fed up with that real quick and quit.

All along I had been helping in my husband’s bookstore when he needed a day off so I knew how to cashier.

3 years ago I got my current job as a cashier at a garden center/pet store. I’m glad I don’t work in the pet room or I would have quit ages ago over how poorly they treat the animals. Minimum wage (which is $8.07 an hour in Washington State) and only medical insurance for me, and I have to pay part of the premiums myself. If I wanted to add my husband and daughter it would take 2 weeks pay every month.

Maybe someday I’ll find a job I like where I make enough money to take lots of time off so I can do things I really enjoy. Until then:

It’s not my job to run the train.

The whistle I can’t blow.

It’s not my job to say how far the train’s allowed to go.

It’s not my job to let off steam or even clang the bell.

But let the darn thing jump the track.

And see who catches HELL.