Vintage Generation on Evil Bay

Not mine. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Generation-England-tin-penny-whistle_W0QQitemZ7401972752QQcategoryZ308QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Great tip!

Why “Evil Bay”? Please enlighten me.

/Falkbeer

Wow, I didn’t know Generation had made “Original Clarke style” whistles…

This one does look nice :astonished:

That looks to be a nice piece. I haven’t been seeing these much lately. Don’t play it, though. Sometimes the fipples are lead.

Dale

I had one of those in the key of C for a long time.

It definitely had a lead fipple plug. Cool instrument, but not in particularly good tune either with itself or with concert pitch.

It’s now owned by a collector, who has a nice assortment of them.

This style of whistle goes back to at least the mid-1800’s.

I have one that’s about 150 years old in approximately the key of B from Barnett Samuel, which later became Barnett Samuel and Son. Barnett Samuel sold all kinds of musical instruments.

Eventually, in the early 1900’s (I think it was about then), they had a huge success with a portable gramophone. They were so successful with that, they decided to rename the company, something that would have the sense of people coming from everywhere to that company for their music. Maybe something like Mecca, but for music. And they became …





Decca.


I don’t know when Generation got started. Does someone know that?

The whistle that’s showing on eBay would be one of the later ones of the old lead fipple style, since it has the recognizable and still current red and gold Generation decal instead of the stamped, soldered metal “cigar band” emblem.

I would guess somewhere from 1930’s to early 1950’s, but that’s only guesswork, since I don’t have any definite dates for the different styles of Generation whistles. I just know the different styles that were made and the order they came out.

Best wishes,
Jerry

Here’s my Barnett Samuel G whistle:

It was probably made between 1861 and 1869. The company was started in 1832, making watches and steel pens. I don’t know when they began making whistles, though.

I play a Barnett Samuel single key flute made of cocus and was doing some google work about it and found they got into whistles. Thanks for the photo. Same makers mark on my flute. He went down to Australia around 1870 or so to peddle some flutes. Thats where I found mine. Wounderful instrument. I wish I had a picture of it to post. (Hey Jon :smiley: )

Take care

Tom

Here’s another one.

Thanks Jonathan; very interesting. The makers mark on my flute does not have the name Barnett Samuel included. I don`t have the flute at hand right now as I sent it to Jon C a flute maker down in LA LA land to measure and I also sent my sketch of the makers mark with it. Very nice flute and a daily player not just a pretty face. I love the tone of this flute and it is very capable of an Irish trad sound. Old whistles and old flutes, gota love them.

Take care

Tom


Here you go!
A very nice player!
Disregard the repair on the head, that will be fixed shortly…

It definitely had a lead fipple plug. Cool instrument, but not in particularly good tune either with itself or with concert pitch.

It’s now owned by a collector, who has a nice assortment of them.[/quote]



It sounds like a lead fipple plug would be a serious threat to your health if you play a lot. Lead is extremely poisonus to humans.

Oh, let’s not do this again

Thanks Jon. :slight_smile: What a nice lookin flute.

Take care

Tom

Very interesting discussion! I´m new to this forum and I concur - let´s not do this again… But it makes one think - what were they thinking of 150 years ago when somebody decided to put a lead fipple on a whistle? On the other hand people may say the same about Delrin or any othe synthetic product 150 years from now - who knows?!

I´ve got a friend who is a scientist (biology). She warned me - NEVER, EVER, use aspartame (a sythetic sweetener) in any size or form! Scientists knows much to little about it - it might give you cancer! (and it tastes like shit too…)

They were thinking mmmmm, lead. Nothing wrong with lead!

I think it’s telling that Nutrisweet was originally banned by the FDA
for several years until a new FDA commisioner was appointed, who
promptly overruled his own Board of Inquiry to approve the product.
Then that same commisioner went to work for the company that
manufactured apartame.