This is my baby, but because I haven’t the time to dedicate to it anymore, I want to sell it and get a Rudall style flute. This is a Pratten made by Chris Wilkes in the 1990s for Jean-Michel Veillon from whom I bought it in 2001. It’s quite a machine and will make a worthy Irish flute player quite happy.
It might help your sale if you stated what key this flute is in, gave a basic verbal description (timber, how many keys etc.) and either some idea (if not a direct statement) of price or how you prefer to be contacted to discuss that. You might also make a post in the Used Instrument Exchange.
Oh my!
I own a Wilkes, Rudall model, but I want more…
Just if Ihad the money!
I have been listening Veillon recording “Er Pasker” during the last 3 weeks a lot of times. This CD is recorded mainly with this same flute. Terrific sound, terrific tone, terrific imagination, terrific musician.
S.
This actually made me laugh. Most amusing thing I’ve read all day. Thank you for either a virtuosic level of sarcasm, or a Brobdingnagian level of obliviousness.
Come on… obviously it’s a D flute, obviously it’s a six keyed flute, obviously it’s an expensive flute… and obviously it’s a very special flute… do you need more??? I’m sure there are people around already making offers for that flute, without asking for more details…
I think FascinatedWanderer’s comment was less to weather-or-not Jem’s advice was necessary and more to weather-or-not Jem’s advice was appreciated.
The response to Jem’s comment was pretty funny sounding (if it had a sound) but i don’t think it’s worth nibbling tails over.
How odd. The OP’s response to Jem didn’t make me laugh at all. What it did do was make me think they are a bollocks. Join C&F, first post is to sell this flute. Ignore the UIE. Don’t put a desired price - C&F isn’t an auction site, last time I checked. Then, when an established C&F member gave them some friendly advice they flamed him. Bol-locks…
Of course, offering an 8 keyed Wilkes Pratten for sale is pretty much like offering booze to Oliver Reed. No doubt it’ll generate considerable interest. The OP is more interested in selling the flute than in being nice, it seems.
Whether the weather be fair or foul, I had a reason for asking about what key this flute is in, besides that being sensible basic info to provide for any sale offering…
In (I think) June 1998 I attended some free gigs in Cardiff associated with the European Summit held there that year. I picked Chris Wilkes up en route. Jean-Michel was over because he was participating in one of the concerts and he came to Chris’s to collect an Eb flute Chris had just finished for him. I got to play both that and the 8-key D Wilkes flute he already had (had then had for a few years). Much more recently (maybe c3 years ago) J-M told me he had sold one of them/a Wilkes flute - I think, but am not certain he said the Eb. I also thought he said he still had the other one (the D?) and was using it between trying out assorted new Morvans & Poljezes (he jokes about playing them in for the makers!). So, seeing this sale, I was a little puzzled and I am trying to tie up what I know and clarify the bits I’m not certain of, as well as attempting to be helpful to the vendor.
I confess I had not (lack of time) perused the photoset linked in the OP when I wrote before - and I now see this is indeed a 6-keyer. Both the D and Eb flutes I saw in '98 were (SFAIR) full 8-keyers, but I’m not totally sure about the Eb on that point, nor whether it was Rudall or Pratten type. So unless this is a third Wilkes which J-M owned…
I believe the 8-key D Wilkes I am referring to and which I believe he still has is the one illustrated on J-M’s website, which is a large-holed Rudall model:
One can see that this is not the flute on offer here… and I have no recollection of “meeting” the one for sale.
… And I think I have now solved the (to me) mystery - I’ve just checked the sleeve notes on Er Pasker - J-M had at that time both the D 8-key Rudall and a D Pratten from CW, and used both on that CD.
So, there we go. But I did have sound reason to wonder whether this might be the Eb.
The difficulty, if I may say so, is that the internet obliterates nuance.
Jem’s post was (I say this having read his posts for years) well meant, in fact.
He tends to dot the 'i’s and cross the 't’s, but he is always well meant.
But of course it might not have read that way to a newcomer who doesn’t
know Jem.
That’s all that’s happened here. A well meant post was read as not so well-meant,
the OP then responded on the basis of the latter reading, and we’re off to
the races.
There is nothing going on here, truly.
We are all of us in this thread nicer than we appear–it’s just an artifact of virtual ‘reality.’
Oh, I certainly will congratulate myself, in the circumstances. Pleasantries aside, I sincerely hope the lovely flute on offer finds the good new home it clearly needs and deserves.
To come onto a forum and make a first post selling something, then to be rude to a person who simply asks for details on what you are selling, is completely out of line. Especially to be rude to somebody who has contributed so much to the forum, simply becuase they ask a question regarding details on what you are trying to sell. Is that not to be expected?
Why would a person not want to give details on something they are trying to sell? If you are wanting to sell a flute, as many details as possible should be included. Look at every other flute sale on the forum. You did say you read the forum, right? I guess you missed over the UIE section, as you are posting it in a discussion forum, then being rude when discussion happens.
If you don’t like a question, you have no obligation to respond to it. If you don’t want questions, post it in the forum where people don’t respond.
If a person makes a claim about a flute, it’s only natural that a person with interest or knowledge of the flute would like to have that information verified.
