I’m not mad as well.
I do have one problem. Not wanting to step on toes..
First off I am a cat fancier… just not able to have any at the moment. One dog, four guinea pigs are enough… And… well… the guinea pigs would most likely be too tempting to a kitty. 8-{
My big complaint is… cats that are out-doors. Dogs are licensed… Dogs are not allowed to roam the neighborhood… Dogs are supposed to be on a leash… At least where I am from..
I have bird feeders scattered around my yard. Its the folks that let the cats roam that ticks me off. It is like I am setting a table for the cats. I know… it is in the cat’s nature to hunt.
I think about the folks who brought cats to islands and then the total bird population being wiped out… I know, I have some issues.
Well that is my 2 cents worth.
BTW… I did not comment on the original picture… I liked it. Reminds me of the toons cartoon… Sylvester…(spelling?)
Laura
[ This Message was edited by: hillfolk22 on 2002-10-01 18:34 ]
I had a cat hunting in my yard for awhile.I used to find piles of bird feathers scattered around somewhat frequently.I started shooting it with my Red Ryder bb gun, this gun shoots slow so it would only sting, but do no permenent damage.
After seeing the cat carrying a squirrel across my property I got my Daisy Powerline and shot it in the butt at half power.He hasn’t come back to my yard, but if I see him again he will get full power with a pellet to the head.
It’s nothing personal against cats,I have a cat of my own but she doesn’t go outside.I like seeing the wildlife outside of my house, and I won’t tolerate having someone elses’ animals hunting on my property.
Take care, Johnz
Last night, an entire thread was deleted, which you had started, under the name “Mini Evil”. I won’t go into detail, here, as to why your malicious thread was deleted–you know why–but shortly before it was, you had given an appology to the board, which the majority had not seen.
Parking in the garage the other day, saw a badly plucked turtledove, feathers all over. Started yelling at the cat, which scared aflight the bird–a jay–which actually committed the slaughter. Have to train kitty to game for jays instead of doves, now. If she dares…
Back to the thread source : Brigitte, I’m not sure that training your kitty to play the didgeridoo will be considered korrect by pet leagues. Can you assure us no other animal was harmed during your workshop ?
And please give us the trick : does one really need to make such moon-eyes in order to get one’s breathing perfectly circular ?
[ This Message was edited by: Zubivka on 2002-10-02 04:07 ]
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On 2002-10-01 22:15, raindog1970 wrote:
OK everybody, you can get off Jessie’s case now because I’m going to post a much more graphic pic of a dead bird.
Mmm… finger lickin’ good!
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I,m with you you Raindog.Jessies pic is frightening indeed and gives us all something to think about…so should this one.Emotions aside,Jessies photo as `art´is exceptionaly good I think. Mike
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Avoiding all personal jibes in previous posts, I nevertheless wish to point out that piles of feathers aint always kitty-cats.
I found this circular pile of what was left of a mockingbird in the yard one day and was amazed because it looked like the bird had exploded right above the ground.
Then the hawk flew by…
I had once predicted that housecats would be outlawed here in the Bay Area because the Greens are so worked up about what they have done (decimated) the songbird population. Animal control has been much more aggressive in sterilization in recent decades. Some communities pondered licensing of cats. Add in those who are allergic to cats. Add in those who are freaked out about toxoplasmosis. But I was wrong…so far… but wearing perfume certainly has been banned in many places for the allergy reason. And they are aggresively removing eucalpytus trees on some public lands, as an example of the unwelcome invader.
But of course, logical extension is…
Europeans out of North America!!!
Along with snakehead fish, cats, eucalyptus, star thistle. cattle etc…
Signed, MiniEvilMe (never got to see Thread but assume It’s Always About Me).
On 2002-10-01 20:35, johnz wrote:
I had a cat hunting in my yard for awhile.I used to find piles of bird feathers scattered around somewhat frequently.I started shooting it with my Red Ryder bb gun, this gun shoots slow so it would only sting, but do no permenent damage.
After seeing the cat carrying a squirrel across my property I got my Daisy Powerline and shot it in the butt at half power.He hasn’t come back to my yard, but if I see him again he will get full power with a pellet to the head.
It’s nothing personal against cats,I have a cat of my own but she doesn’t go outside.I like seeing the wildlife outside of my house, and I won’t tolerate having someone elses’ animals hunting on my property.
Take care, Johnz
If my husband had his way… well, there would not be a cat in the neighborhood. I tell him it is not the cats fault. They are just doing what comes natural to them. Again it is the pet owner.
We have tried calling the pound about the problem. This town does not pick up stray cats. So pretty much it is in the property owners own hands.
We did train the dog to chase the cats out of the yard. Good sport for the dog. Entertaining for us. Unfortunately she is getting old and half blind.
On the bucket of chicken issue, ya you are right. I wonder how many people would still be eating meat if they had to kill the animals themselves.
On 2002-10-02 03:26, Zubivka wrote:
Started yelling at the cat, which scared aflight the bird–a jay–which actually committed the slaughter. Have to train kitty to game for jays instead of doves, now. If she dares…
Ah yes…the notorious jaybird. My great grandparents got a cat for the express purpose of keeping the beautiful, but horrific, jays out of their garden. Unfortunately, certain neighbors didn’t fancy cats I guess. After two cats Great Grandmother gave up on keeping them (cats) alive. She still has a jay problem in her garden I suppose.
Laura:
Protein makes you go. If you were stuck without stores, after a few months the hundreds of thousands of years of training would kick in and you would likely seek out and/or crave animal flesh. All the fruit in the world would leave you still hungry.
I have often confronted this sentiment (about not eating meat if you have to kill it). But being raised in a ranching family, I have come to the conclusion that its a grown-up perspective to take responsibility for the animal life you take when you or your family consume it. Having stores around allows you to be a “kidult” about it. You don’t have to know how it got in the styrofoam tray.
A friend of mine, interested in things Jewish, talks about a Jewish perspective in the way animal life is taken for food, with respect, humility and thankfulness.
Seems about the right way if yer gonna eat meat to think about it.
On 2002-10-02 07:37, The Weekenders wrote:
Avoiding all personal jibes in previous posts, I nevertheless wish to point out that piles of feathers aint always kitty-cats.
I found this circular pile of what was left of a mockingbird in the yard one day and was amazed because it looked like the bird had exploded right above the ground.
Then the hawk flew by…
I had once predicted that housecats would be outlawed here in the Bay Area because the Greens are so worked up about what they have done (decimated) the songbird population. Animal control has been much more aggressive in sterilization in recent decades. Some communities pondered licensing of cats. Add in those who are allergic to cats. Add in those who are freaked out about toxoplasmosis. But I was wrong…so far… but wearing perfume certainly has been banned in many places for the allergy reason. And they are aggresively removing eucalpytus trees on some public lands, as an example of the unwelcome invader.
But of course, logical extension is…
Europeans out of North America!!!
Along with snakehead fish, cats, eucalyptus, star thistle. cattle etc…
Signed, MiniEvilMe (never got to see Thread but assume It’s Always About Me).
Not sure how to reply.
I agree about the hawks.
Had one visiting the neighborhood preying on Grackles. I confess, I was intrigued. Nature at it’s raw. No need to go to Africa, the hunt comes right to my yard. I am a big fan of Raptors. At least they belong.
The problem IMHO.. is lack of education about invasive animals and plants. We planted Russian Autumn Olives in the yard.
Makes for a nice hedge. Was recommended by the State at the time. Now the State forbids it. Too evasive. The birds like it.
I guess we as Americans are paying the price of being the land of the free.
Now there are laws being made taking some of our freedoms away. Hmmm… I wonder how far it will go.
I guess we as Americans are paying the price of being the land of the free.
Now there are laws being made taking some of our freedoms away. Hmmm… I wonder how far it will go.
Laura
Because this is such an international or at least continental Forum, I take this opportunity to present one of california’s new laws. Governor Gray(-out) Davis, running in a tight race because his tenure is so troubled, just signed a law limiting the weight of children’s backpacks. The immediate reaction of school districts was to wonder if the quality of textbooks would be affected if they had to resort to paper covers.
The worst part was that this was in my “real” newspaper, not the Onion. I mean, I have kids, with backpacks, but I can just hear Gray-out in the televised debates talking about his record on children’s issues…
Too many laws here in California? Naaaaaaaaaahhh.
Hey, maybe he’ll ban overly heavy bells on cat’s necks too!
'Enders, are they going to weigh all the backpacks? Maybe they could employ all the out-of-work airline baggage handlers in the new backpack weigh stations.
Only if they allow Foreign nationals. We are in the middle of a painful transition to govt screeners. The Filipinos for Affirmative Action are on the front page because so many of them are losing jobs at SF and Oakland. It’s true.
Maybe they’ll stop by the truck weigh-stations on the way to school. C’mere junior, stand on the platform…
On 2002-10-02 07:57, The Weekenders wrote:
Laura:
Protein makes you go. If you were stuck without stores, after a few months the hundreds of thousands of years of training would kick in and you would likely seek out and/or crave animal flesh. All the fruit in the world would leave you still hungry.
I have often confronted this sentiment (about not eating meat if you have to kill it). But being raised in a ranching family, I have come to the conclusion that its a grown-up perspective to take responsibility for the animal life you take when you or your family consume it. Having stores around allows you to be a “kidult” about it. You don’t have to know how it got in the styrofoam tray.
A friend of mine, interested in things Jewish, talks about a Jewish perspective in the way animal life is taken for food, with respect, humility and thankfulness.
Seems about the right way if yer gonna eat meat to think about it.
Native Americans think the same as well.
I tried the vegetarian thing. Could not stay on it. Found myself craving meat.
I agree. Some folks give thanks for their meals to God, we should also offer up thanks for the animal who gave it’s life for us.
I have a friend who is a farmer. Her family raises pigs to show at the local county fair. I admire her strength. To be able to raise an animal from birth to proudly show at the fair. I think this time it will be more difficult for her to part with a certain pig in her care. This one does tricks for marshmallows. (reminds me of Charlotte’s ‘spelling’ Web)
The fair is next week. I plan on visiting this famous pig.