Tom digs Katie Holmes, Scientology, Chiff & Fipple

I thought that was a ghastly movie, but I really enjoyed the book.
Tony
(There’ll be lots of brainwashing at the chiff gathering this Sat. :smiling_imp: )

What clip?

I dutifully read two pages of comments on a music forum before hitting this. Does being a poor musician mean people should pay more or less attention to my opinions?

Should we happen to meet, I’d be happy to hear what you have to say on any topic (maybe) and I’d share my views with you for as long as you care to listen. That said, I’m pretty sure anything I might offer would not merit time on national TV. Even musicians are entitled to their opinions and, on most topics, their opinions will be at least as valuable as those of Tom Cruise, if not more so. This is true for poor musicians and musicians who play poorly.

Didn’t Scientologists used to interview people with some kind of “E-meter” device hooked up to the person.

-Don’t santologists share a belief system with clausicrucians i.e. a jolly fat man with a big beard delivering presents/ lumps of coal worldwide each year? I think I saw something like that in one of the old National Lampoon newspapers. (The Dacron, Ohio Republican-Democrat)

-If there were anything to the lumps of coal theory-couldn’t George Bush
and Dick Cheney supply our national energy needs with them? They must have a large supply from being bad.

ta-da

Ooh](http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/travolta-star.html%22%3EOoh), ooh, Mr. Kotter

I used to think Tom Cruise was a fairly decent fellow.

Then I saw a sit-down with him last night… very creepy, and suprisingly arrogant (even by Hollywood standards, most would actually make an effort to sound modest in an interview).

Seven years dating - a commitment not to commit?

On the topic of the thread, didn’t you love Tom’s romantic proposal atop the Eiffel Tower? A profession of his undying love - " 'til death do us part - or until you become a more important star than me…"

On the Moor wrote:

very creepy, and suprisingly arrogant (even by Hollywood standards, most would actually make an effort to sound modest in an interview).

Most religious fanatics are creepy and arrogant…creepy because there is something strange about them and once they become fanatically religious the creepy part becomes more outwardly noticable…arrogant because they think they are better than everybody else since either God has chosen them, or God is personally talking to them, etc.. you get the drift…

I suspect that’s what happened with Cruise, he became more extremely religious over time and it’s clearly showing.

Over the years, I kept hearing my co-workers going ga-ga over Cruise, but I could never see it. I tried watching several of his movies on video, but usually couldn’t get past the first half hour. The exceptions were “Far and Away” (it took me three tries to get through it, and I kept with it just because I like Ron Howard and wanted to give it a chance), and “Rainman” because, I think, I had as low an opinion of Cruise’s character as I did of Cruise so I didn’t have that “oh, please!” factor.

Wait–I did get all the way through the first “Mission Impossible.” Not sure why, though. Must not have been paying attention.

Anyway, I think he and Nicole Kidman have very cold eyes. Snake eyes. Look at their pictures–See any warmth? Any humor?

He’ll never know that I’m trying to avoid him, of course. All I can do is refuse, in my small way, to support him. :smiley:

M

Actually, I think Tom Cruise is an underrated actor. In the right movie, he can really shine. The right movie, by the way, is Magnolia, but I digress.

In any case, I’m boycotting the work of all Scientologists. They’ve been trying to convince people for years and years that mental health professionals are evil and I for one have had a belly full.

Dale

So that includes Travolta. Cruise and who else?

L. Ron Hubbard of course. I won’t go see any movies he’s in.

Well, it’s no wonder why. Have you listened to the L. Ron clips on that website? I’m sure he was averse to mental health professionals because he himself was clearly over the edge and hanging on by a twig.

Wikipedia lists this group of celebs, but I’m not sure how many are wrong.

  • Kirstie Alley, actress
  • Anne Archer, actress
  • Jennifer Aspen, actress
  • Jason Beghe, actor
  • Catherine Bell, actress
  • Karen Nelson Bell, producer, director and musician
  • David Campbell, musician
  • Nancy Cartwright, voiceover artist
  • Kate Ceberano, actress and musician
  • Erika Christensen, actress
  • Keith Code, racing instructor
  • Chick Corea, musician
  • Tom Cruise, actor
  • Dave Davies, musician
  • Xavier Deluc, actor
  • Jenna Elfman, actress, and her husband Bodhi, actor
  • Michael Fairman, actor
  • Beck Hansen, (Beck) musician
  • Isaac Hayes, musician, actor
  • Nicky Hopkins, musician
  • Katie Holmes, actress
  • L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology
  • Mark Isham, musician
  • Terry Jastrow, TV producer and director
  • Kimberley Kates, actress
  • Jason Lee, actor and professional skateboarder
  • Geoffrey Lewis, actor
  • Juliette Lewis, actress
  • Peggy Lipton, actress
  • Courtney Love, musician
  • Christopher Masterson, actor
  • Danny Masterson, actor, older brother of Christopher Masterson
  • Peter Medak, director
  • Floyd Mutrux, writer, director and producer
  • Haywood Nelson, actor
  • Judy Norton, actress and musician
  • Eduardo Palomo, actor, and his wife Carina, actress and musician
  • Raptor Phuckov, Spartak Varna footballer
  • Jeff Pomerantz, actor
  • David Pomeranz, musician
  • Priscilla Presley, actress
  • Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis
  • Kelly Preston, actress and John Travolta’s wife
  • Leah Remini, actress
  • Patrick Renna, actor
  • Giovanni Ribisi, actor
  • Marissa Ribisi, actress
  • Michael D. Roberts, actor
  • Mimi Rogers, actress
  • Carl-W. Röhrig, artist
  • Billy Sheehan, rock bassist
  • Megan Shields, physician and author
  • Michelle Stafford, actress
  • Patrick Swayze, actor
  • Greta Van Susteren, host of On the Record with Greta Van Susteren on FOX TV
  • John Travolta, actor
  • Patrick Warren, musician
  • Edgar Winter, musician

Why am I NOT suprised to see Courtney Love on that list?

That’s it! I’m not seeing any more Peggy Lipton movies. Ever.

Right. And especially those who have a soundtrack by Edgar Winter.

Please. Don’t do this.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/20/cruise.prank.ap/index.html