Oh, Taylors made lots of double chanters, not just one. Cummings (Ted Anderson’s), Joe Shannon, Pat Ward’s (that you hear Leo Rowsome play on the Ds & Cs), come to mind. Tom Kerrigan looks to be playing one in the picture of him. George McCarthy, student of Taylor, was a doubler. The pipemaker Brennan had a sheet of measurements with two more. Tom Busby told me reeded one up early in his career. I’m sure there are more. In fact - that family in Kildare that owns a six reg/no drone Coyne set also has a four reg Taylor with double if IRC. There’s a chap in upstate New York who has a Taylor set from Busby - case says “Taylor Bros.” - three chanters, D, C#, double. What are we up to? Patsy Brown made a good few doubles too I’m told. Looks like he’s playing one in the photo of him.
Double chanters were made for Scottish smallpipes too - you find them on the continent as well. Hungarian pipes have a bass drone with three bores in one piece of wood and I always wondered if the Taylors somehow took a look at one.
Nice! Do you have one yet Kevin?
Pat.
Kevin Henry has a few metal chanters, one a double that he has been taking to the WCSS for years and years to show to people. They’re from the Taylor-ite school but I don’t know the actual maker (not sure anyone does)
resist…resist…can’t …say…the…“Z”..word…!
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Never took a liking to that double UP chanter sound, (at least the recordings Ive heard )
it seems so…well,…out of context.
Naw. Tried to fit reeds in Ted’s one afternoon. Results were usually a bit too Tunisian.
Would be cool to have of course. Maybe someday.
Never took a liking to that double UP chanter sound, (at least the recordings Ive heard ) it seems so…well,…out of context.
Well, depends on what context you have in mind. They used to be played here and there - a valid sound, you could say. Some would have that regulators don’t belong on pipes, too.
Chris Bayley has a double taylor style chanter - do not think he knows how made it. Interesting sound when he has it going and fom memory it is more like two chanters played togther than one loud one. Also has would you believe a double highland chanter
John
I’m guessing again, that there is only one reed? How do the bores come together, after the throat? Any diagrams, measurements, profiles, etc available anywhere?
David
edited to add:
I just took a closer look at the double chanter on ebay and I think I see two reed seats. The piper’s despair times two?
Dave Hegarty has made a few over the years too.
I remember he shyly produced one at the Willie week one year. It may have been a copy of Joe Shannons.
Tommy
David C wrote:
I’m guessing again, that there is only one reed? How do the bores come together, after the throat? Any diagrams, measurements, profiles, etc available anywhere?
No it is two complete chanters in one piece of wood each with their dedicated reed
There are some exceptions - the Reids made a number with a drone bore alongside the chanter and MacGregor one where the chanter was in one bore and the other was a regulator. Unusual chanter as it was stopped at the bottom on both bores and the ‘Ghost d’ became a true D and was the bottom note of the chanter.
Elmek wrote
Chris Bayley has a double taylor style chanter - do not think he knows how made it.
Yes I do have one brought at auction in Sotheby’s in 1986. Tayloresque and unstamped. Will post pictures later and you can all have a guess as to the maker
Chris
Kewl!
O’Meally made doubles, too - never seen one, did he use the Taylor-ish keys? Or just not bother? There’s a Coyne set somewhere with a double chanter, too.
Chris wrote
…the Reids made a number with a drone bore alongside the chanter…
Did they separate the two reeds in this case and if they did to what degree?
I made an adapter that fit in the top of my chanter top that held a tenor drone. The air passage between the two reeds was only around 1/8", but the proximity of the drone reed made some of the notes on the chanter, for lack of a better description, “fuzzy”.
David
“Tunisian”…precisely! (grazie) I’m all in favor of double chanters, reg’s, keys, and all that complexity, of course,
but I guess Ive just been conditioned to hearing a rippingly wild czardas, ratcheniza, or tarantella,
instead of a planxty or slip jig. ![]()
entirely pavlovian…
Here’s one more - the other, I should say - commercial track of a double chanter, Leo Rowsome playing the reels the Ash Plant, Jenny Tie the Bonnet, and Drowsy Maggie.
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Did they separate the two reeds in this case and if they did to what degree?
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No - they are very close.
The effect you describe is common on French pipes especially the cabrette with its dumbell stocks - check your email later on. Cannot say too much as this is an Uilleann forum ![]()
… you’re darned tootin’ it is, in fact, I demand you give me two Our Fathers and Fifty-five Hails Marys for the flutes and the like on other thread!
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I have a double Scottish smallpipe chanter made by Colin Ross. As described there are two reeds in a single stock.
When I collected it from Colin we discussed the reed setting and he spoke of two views of it. His view (which I have followed) is that the reeds should be set so they are in tune with each other. Their proximity within the stock causes interference between them and results in “phasing”. The alternative was to offset the tuning of the two reeds to give a tremolo. Hamish Moore, who Colin had made a chanter for (before Hamish went into manufacturing pipes), followed this view. The main advantage of this is you can control the tremolo but not the phasing.
Incidentally in making his double chanters Colin would bore two pieces of wood then glue them together before turning.
There is a soundclip of mine at http://travelingpiper.com/hector.mp3
However, we’d LOVE
to hear your thoughts on French pipes
here; Bagpipes (Non-Uilleann) - Chiff & Fipple
here;http://uilleannforum.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=8
or here;http://dronefolks.informe.com/index.php Chris! ![]()
Hi CHas
Message received - will add to one of the above forums.
and at at the risk of upsetting a certain moderator (again)
Double chanters are not unknown in France - Boha of course and also have seen a Chabrette Limousine with a double chanter.
Chris
… and at at the risk of upsetting a certain moderator (again)
I might overlook the infraction if you post some photos of that double chanter. ![]()
show the doubler, 1 Our Father + Forty Hail Marys, I say ![]()