Tailored Tutor Advice

Hello folks,

I’m hopping over from the Whistle forum to get a little bit of advice. I’m anxiously anticipating the arrival of my first practice set (a Charles Roberts set I picked up from MikeyLikesIt), and am thinking I might get a tutor booK. Before I go on, I should mention that I have searched this topic, have read all kinds of helpful suggestions on point, and I’ve read the FAQ, FAQ, FAQ. All very useful. My question is a little more specific.

The situation is this: I’ve never played the noble Uilleann pipes. I am, however, a fairly accomplished Highland and Lowland pipe player, and I’m a competent whistle player as well. The bellows/bag issue will not be a problem. I’ve looked at fingering charts, and don’t think it will take very much time to adjust to the differences there either. Many physical aspects of the pipe (reed issues, etc.) are at least familiar, and so I’m not expecting to be too overwhelmed by them. I’m also well exposed to the music.

Several people have said that various books are helpful in different respects, and that a number of books, taken together, may be helpful to the real beginer. Perhaps I’m fooling myself (we’ll see soon), but I’m expecting to have a steeper learning curve than a lot of begniners given my background. What I don’t want is to spend money on books that cover things I don’t need to learn. I don’t need to learn how to read music, etc. I do, however, want a little structure to my practice for the first little while (and I have neither the time nor the money for lessons). So, does anyone have any suggestions about a book that might be helpful for someone in my position?

Thanks, and sorry this is so long…

Seeing as though you live in Toronto, youmay want to get in touch with our own djm about getting started.

I will give a plug for the Heather Clarke Tutor and CD.

Get in touch with Debbie Quigley. She’s a great piper and and experienced teacher. djm should have her contact info and if you ask him nicely maybe he’ll PM them to you.

Also, the Chris Langan Weekend is coming up at the end of April. You should get along to that. There’ll be no shortage of piping at that event.

I can’t stress this enough, but, attending a tionol or piper’s gathering is perhaps the best thing a newbie piper could do to start off on the correct foot. Get yer tushie to the Lagan Weekend buddy! :smiley:

Lot’s of good wisdom here and in my PM’s, I have no doubt. Thanks everyone.

From what I’ve seen of the various tutors (all the usual suspects), not a one would be out of place for someone who is familiar with other bellows instruments. In fact, I’d say they actually move along rather quickly. The Clarke tutor for example is going to take years to actually get through. Unless you’re some sort of piping god. And if you are, then I bow down to you o god of pipering.

So go ahead and get Clarke et al, I’m sure you’ll find plenty to learn in there.

Amen.

Sounds about right. The Uilleann Pipes take a few years to lean. :smiley:

I just checked out my school’s music library (University of Toronto) and discovered that it has not one, but two copies of Heather Clarke’s tutor! It also has a copy of the Master’s Touch. It looks like I’m set on the tutor front for a while.

During the course of my investigation, I also came across this:

The piper’s despair : a manual of reed making for the Northumbrian and Irish Union (Uilleann) bagpipes

Any thoughts? I’ve always been interested in reed making…

With your background, the Sean Potts CD-rom tutor might be the way to go. NPU has videos, too.

What edition of the Pipers’ Despair is this? (most recent is third I believe). It’s by esteemed list member and pipemaker DMQuinn and well worth a read.

It’s also less formulaic than most other reedmaking manuals; that’s both good and bad. Good since IMO you have little chance of consistent success without some understanding of the many variables that affect the reed, and cookbook approaches can be hit or miss because every piece of cane, and every chanter, is different.

Bill

It’s a 1980 copyright, and seems to be a first edition. Has there been much change in the text?

Yes. Also a number of suggested dimensions have changed, though the old ones are preserved for posterity in the new editions, I believe.

Bill

I am a beginner and I’ve been going off of the Clarke tutor exclusively and the results are very good. I did have to learn to read music but you can always skip over that stuff since you know it. The whole thing is presented in a very methodical and appropriate schedule, I think it is great.

I think it’s important to get one tutor and stick to it, rather than trying to work on 3 or 4 tutors at the one time. Clarke is excellent. So is the Master’s Touch by Seamus Ennis.

I’ve taken out a copy of the Clarke tutor, and it doesn’t look too daunting. Now I just need some pipes…

Thanks again everyone.

Aspiring pipers would do well to have a copy of Dennis Brooks book Union Pipes, A Workbook.

Is that a recent publication? What’s it got that the others have not? I’m always interested in seeing what different tutors have to offer.

Cheers,

DavidG

Its available from the Seattle Piper’s Club, which also has the best UP club newsletter I’ve seen. Join up. http://www.irishpipersclub.org/

The Brooks tutor covers lots of everything, with a complete inventory of piping ornaments and tricks. Pretty thorough. A good read.

djm

Hi Canpiper!

The Chris Langan weekend is coming up! This year it is April 28 - 30 2006 in the Bloor and Spadina area.

The website is in the process of being updated: http://www.chrislangan.ca

There is really great instruction from the top instructors in Canada and the weekend committee is bringing over Mick O’Brien, a brilliant piper. Instruction ranges from beginner to advanced, so make sure you get involved with a couple of classes!! There is a gala concert on Saturday night as well at Hugh’s Room.

Aren’t you lucky!? :stuck_out_tongue:

All the best,

It appears that the answer is: ‘yes, I am lucky!’ I’ve already been to the website, and I’m looking forward to the weekend. It should be great! If I haven’t managed to Master the uilleann pipes by then, I may even consider enrolling in a class or two, as you suggest. :slight_smile:

I’m also looking into the Dennis Brooks book.