A break-through… perfectly in tune and no reeds! True, authentic sounding Uilleann Pipes:
A five minute record function added with immediate playback available. Now you can analyze your playing. Listeners won’t know if it is you or just the Celtic Star playing!
Chanters utilize traditional finger spacing close to what Uilleann and Highland chanters require.
We haven’t had a single, negative critique yet, against making the Celtic Star a reality.>
the above is pasted from the site Elbogo mentions. Note the last para’.Particularly the word “yet”. I have no emoticon for rubbing hands while cackling evilly. I have an idea.
Cheers
Al
(edited twice to find para’ that vanished)
[ This Message was edited by: AlanB on 2002-11-23 05:13 ]
[ This Message was edited by: AlanB on 2002-11-23 05:14 ]
Hya Alan suppose youll be on the dole soon,just think no more reeds.Personally I blame Rolf Harris and his Stylaphone.Do you think Paddy Keenan has been secretly playing the Celtic star E bag gizzmo for years and hasn’t let on?? Who is this Davy C anyway.Comments !!! I’ll give him feckin comments.
Slan go foill
Liam
This is all news to me. Wow, Elbogo, What a followup to a thread on synthetic reeds. based on the description it would seem to be like one of those guitar-synthesizers. Just one question… Is this serious? I’m not being sarcastic or anything. I really want to know.
-Paul
i sense a veiled hostility for the idea of this device and i am not sure why. electric guitars have been big for 60 years and have not dulled the enthusiasm and love for the acoustic instruments. i have played deger electric pipes (ghb and smallpipes)- great way to learn a tune, play on a crowded airplane, etc. 3 or 4 difference flavours of electric ghb are on the market and i have not noticed the world ghb community shrivel up and die because of them.
the particular device under discussion- will either be a nice electric instrument or turn out to be a piece of crap. either way, others will keep trying. there is room for all kinds.
meir
From the quote (and I haven’t seen the site yet), they’re not actually saying they haven’t received a negative critique. They’re saying they haven’t received a negative critique against “making it a reality.”
As for making an Electric UP chanter a reality, I have yet to see one that is anything more than a glorified GHB chanter. To make an EUP chanter that functions like a real one, they will have to incorporate the bag (to determine pressure variations for octave changes) and a stop-valve button on the bottom (for staccato and silences). I can’t see them managing to make one that does decent vibrato, either, though that would certainly be nice.
As for it being similar to an electric guitar, that’s a bad analogy. An electric guitar is just an acoustic guitar with magnetic pickups to pick up the metal string vibrations. Decent physical modeling/synthesis of woodwinds (especially reeded instruments) is very complex.
Dionys
“…Decent physical modeling/synthesis of woodwinds (especially reeded instruments) is very complex. Dionys”
Yeah it is!
I have a friend who plays saxophone, electronic (wind controller) sax and GHB’s professionally. He’s also learning to play Uilleann pipes.
The electronic sax is really an instrument unto itself, as it requires completely different technique to play. I think it has a four octave range controlled by a thumb wheel.
On 2002-11-23 17:02, meir wrote:
i sense a veiled hostility for the idea of this device and i am not sure why.the particular device under discussion- will either be a nice electric instrument or turn out to be a piece of crap. either way, others will keep trying. there is room for all kinds.
meir
Meir,
I would hardly say it was veiled hostility, just I think profanity is not allowed on the board.
An electronic bagpipe is fine, call it an electronic bagpipe. I have no problem with that. It’s the claims they make about authenticity and mad stuff about fiddles harps n whistles??? To produce those sounds authentically you would need to use a very high quality sampling system,using a myriad of multilayered samples which would respond to the finger pressure and that would not be cheap, and even then it would totally lack nuance. People who don’t know will be drawn in and buy it thinking it might help them in UP context and be sore disappointed. (I thought it might have been a joke site for a moment, but I checked the GHB page and had a listn to the sound sample, though even then 
)I personally encourage progress but stop dressing things in BS to sell them.
Cheers
Alan
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On 2002-11-23 17:02, meir wrote:
i sense a veiled hostility for the idea of this device and i am not sure why. "
There is nothing veiled about my hostility to this .Davy C must be an absolutely AWEFUL piper to go to such lengths to produce a replication of the sound with no effort involved.He can call his thing whatever he likes they are NOT nor NEVER will be UILLEANN UNION OR IRISH PIPES.If I am ever unlucky enough to hear these at a public performance I shall have no hesitation in making my views beknown to those present.This guy is out to make MONEY MONEY MONEY there is nothing wrang with that until as Alan rightly says he dresses his gizmo in a bespoke suit.Get real guys n galls this is an imitation.
Slan
Liam