sunburn

I hate it. Why am I pale?

I have friends from Sudan and Kenya who are very dark, and they never have to worry about sunburn at all. They could stay in the hot sun all day and never even turn red. It makes me sad. It’s not even summer yet and my arms resemble tomatoes in color.

I was sitting on a bench today just watching the birds gather twigs for nests. I sat in the same place at about noon for 20 minutes or so. And my arms are sunburnt from it.

When I was a hermit I didn’t mind being pale. I even liked it. But now that I have a life, I don’t like it much at all… :angry:

sunscreen, sunscreen, sunscreen…

Were you on prednisone or any other steroids through all your health problems this winter? Many, many medications can make you even more prone to sunburn then just being naturally pale.

I have to slather up both my face AND my legs with high dose sunscreen. I’ve suffered sun poisoning on both areas in the past, and I cannot stay in the sun without covering up and lots of sunscreen. I also wear a hat with a bill or brim most of the time. My arms can take getting tan.

Noah is SO fair that he has to wear a t- shirt when he swims, and I put Bull Frog on him, and he STILL winds up getting red…
He never tans, but eventually he does get enough freckles that the color kinda blends together.


There are a lot of moisturizers out now that have some color agents in them to give a little bit of color - you might want to try one of those.

I’ve been on so many medicines I’m surprised I’m not purple or green.

I usually wear sunscreen in the summer. But right now winter is barely over. I didn’t expect to be burning this easily this soon.

I’m not pale like a ghost or anything. I have dark hair but green eyes, so apparently the green eyes make me prone to sunburn. Blah.

Skin cancer runs in my family too. sigh

Actually, people with dark brown or black skin can suffer damage from UV light from the sun, although not as readily as light-skinned people.

The amount of UV reaching the earth’s surface varies depending on factors such as the time of year, the time of day, the weather, the amount of ozone in the atmosphere and the altitude. Weather forecasters in the UK use the Solar UV index during the summer to help people understand how careful they need to be and how quickly burning will occur. It was designed by the World Health Organisation and uses people’s skin type to determine how low or high a risk they have of experiencing damage.

The UK Department of Health’s Safe Sun campaign says, “The index is a more accurate way of assessing your risk than simply knowing what time of year it is, what time of day, and how near the equator you are.”

The index goes from 0 to 20, although in Europe it’s unlikely to hit levels over 10, and has the following meaning.

1-2: The sun is unlikely to cause harm, so everyone is at low risk (e.g. typically during British winters).

3-4: Still low risk for most people, except those with very sensitive skin, who shouldn’t stay in the sun without protection.

5-6: Everyone with white or brown skin needs protection if in the sun. It’s still low risk for people with black skin.

7+: Everyone, regardless of skin colour, should cover up. Those with white skin have a high or very high risk, people with brown skin have a medium risk and high risk at level 10 and people with black skin are at medium risk up to 10.

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/html/healthy_living/general/sun_care/uv.html

This is why I don’t go outside.

The safest place is in the cool dank murk of the local irish pub. :smiley:

I love the sun and so does the dermatologist who freezes off my pre-cancerous skin thingies (actinic keratoses). What a racket.

Funny thing is, I don’t see much direct sun when I visit back East compared to Calaforny. I was in Nashville one August a few years back, and never saw a blue sky even once for five days straight. Always overcast and about to thunder. I guess you burn in that, tho. Man, I was glad to feel the evil rays on my skin when I came home.

When I had hair it was reddish. Before my skin was leather it was fair. I get some colour, but I’ve always been a bit on the pale side compared to friends. I burn very easily, so I take precautions now: sunblock, hats etc.

My two daughters have inherited my colouring, but my son’s skin tans easier and he burns less easily. My step-children are of mixed race, afro-carribean/white, so they should have a bit of an advantage, but my step-daughter is always careful as she seems to burn quite easily for a dark-skinned person.

My father never burns. Now in his 70s, he still goes on vacations to hot countries then just falls asleep on the beach in the sun for a couple of hours - no sunscreen or hat - then wakes up with no visible ill effects. He is permanently tanned. I hate him. (No, not really).

I have to say that, although naturally dark skin is lovely, be it black, mediterranean, south asian or whatever, I really don’t find cosmetic tanning on white people all that attractive. Fine if someone works outside and their skin just reflects their lifestyle, but the orange people who go in search of a deep tan in order to satisfy vanity… nah, doesn’t work for me.

What’s the difference between the two, is the natural thought. Dunno, maybe it’s a whole demeanour thing.

When I was young and used to be really vain, I used to do loads of martial arts and gym work. I was really envious of black mates because, although their muscle development was no better than mine, it used to look cleaner and more defined due to the difference in our skin tones.

I grew out of vanity, as anyone who sees me now could probably guess… :smiley:

Dark hair and green eyes is a very attractive combination, Cran. Sounds rather Irish.

I burn easily too, having had gingery hair when I was young. Now I have to wear a hat in pretty much any amount of sun to avoid very painful head burns, though my remaining hair is very dark brown - every time it’s cut and I get to see it I’m suprised, because my body and beard hair is still gingery.

Cran, protect your skin - you can get burned in lots of “I didn’t think it was hot enough” situations. And multiple bad burns when you’re young can greatly increase your risk for skin cancer when you’re older.

One of my aunts loves to ski, and has spent a lot of time on the slopes. She got skin cancer on her face from all the reflected sunlight bouncing off the snow and reaching her skin. You wouldn’t think you could get sunburned in winter, but you can. It’s not the temperature that gets you but the UV rays. Now she has to be extremely careful about her sun exposure, or risk more cancer.

Midday is the most dangerous time for burns. Get some sunscreen, it’s a good investment. Do some research on what all the sun protection factors mean - some of them can be misleading. When you’re going to be out in the sun, take a minute to put some on your exposed skin. If you don’t like how one feels, try a different brand.

Once you’ve got a burn, a sunburn cream with aloe in it will help.

Same as that. I get very nervous when I find myself out without a hat and the day turns sunnier than I expected. I end up looking like one of the belisha beacons at a zebra crossing.

I more or less just get pinker and pinker too. I got a horrible sunburn in Hawaii many years ago, not realizing that the rays of the sun were more direct (or something like that) and that I would get burned more quickly there. It came close to ruining my time there, it was so painful. Ever since then I have been extremely careful in the sun. Putting sunscreen on is such a nuisance, but I do it. I saw a kind in a spray bottle last year. I can’t remember the brand and it was really expensive where I saw it. It sure sounds handy, so maybe it will come down in price as it gets competitors.

Sun? What is “sun”? Is it that brightish glow that I’ve seen now and then through the clouds in the last couple of weeks?

I’ll be so glad when the weather finally warms up here. We might have warm enough weather for the lilacs to bloom by our lilac festival in mid-May. Right now it’s been chilly and rainy since the end of March, and Easter weekend is supposed to be rainy and in the mid-40s for highs.

My husband has hazel eyes and dark brown hair, and he burns inside of 15 minutes. I have blonde hair (well, OK, mixed with grey now) and blue eyes, and it takes 2 hours before I even start to get any color, and if I get inside or put sunscreen on just when I start to get pink it goes to a lovely golden tan. But I have had a couple of bad sunburns when I stayed out for 3 or 4 hours without sunscreen and really blistered and peeled.

I think the Native Americans in this area had a sense of humor - “Spokane” means “children of the sun” but since we really only get sunny weather in late June, July, August, and early September, I think it’s along the same lines as giving a fat person the nickname of “Tiny.”

8 am, April 13, 42 degrees, headed for a high of 55, and overcast with a 30% chance of rain.

We had a had a black-skinned bodhranist in the band I played with at the Texas Renaissance Festival in '03, and she got black sunburned and tan lines from the long hours in the sun.

She was a cute girl and a good friend..her company is one of the few things I miss about moving from Houston.

Whenever I’m going to spend anytime out in the baking Texas sun I slather on the highest SPF bullfrog gel I can find. My bottle is running out, I hope they still make it. It will stay on even after cycling for four hours in the Texas heat.

I learned to do this the hardway while in college. A friend invited me to go windsurfing, which I had never done, so I accepted and drove down to the bay with them. Being a poor college student I used whatever the cheapest sunblock was I could find. We waded out up to our knees and the wind abruptly died for the rest of the day, so we lounged about and I took a longer than expected nap in what started out to be shade but ended up full sun.

The next morning, I woke up with purple legs beneath my knees and a large amount of pain. Turns out the cheap sunblock wasn’t waterproof and it had all washed away where water had touched.

Ouch.

I couldn’t stand because it pulled the skin taunt and hurt like a dickens, so I called in sick to work, missed several days of classes, and spent my time in front of the tv with my legs propped up and draped with cool, wet towels. Eventually the dead skin came away in sheets, kinda cool but distrubing at the same time.

Every since I’ve been very careful about the brands of sunblock I buy and am careful to apply it fully.

Specially below the knees.

beowulf - I can get BullFrog at just about any pharmacy around here, but if you have trouble finding it, look at cycling shops or outdoor stores. They almost always carry it.
And I agree - other then slathering yourself with straight zinc oxide (which looks just plain strange!) NOTHING works better then BullFrog!

Just today a professor asked the class if we’d like to go outside and have class “in this beautiful weather.” One student who said no was a very pale redheaded Jewish girl. I bet you can guess who the only other “no” vote belonged to.

sigh

My linguistics class met outside today. I enjoyed it, even though I typically shun the out-of-doors.

I probably still have those little pollen-pods that fall everywhere on my butt, though.

Gee, no wonder y’all’s are lobster-red just from the drive in from the airport! :laughing:

http://www.sunprecautions.com/search.asp?UID=2006041314221252&PAGLEN=20&SKW=0ss

Good to know, for a while it was hard to find and I horded my bottles of it. They were…precious to me…

I’m hoping to start cycling again this weekend and drop the post first year of marriage weight, so it will get used.