Roll Over, Bloomfield

[CHIFF_FIPPLE]

(I*fin, there was only the right way to do every thing we would stand still and not do any :roll: thing
While we can all learn something new every day, to get good at what we do yer got’er Play to the beat of yer own Drum

[Dorcas]

@billymac

Has eveybody gone mad! Since when did whistle music become somthing taught by the vienna school of classical music! Most of these tunes, Irish,Scotttish, English, French etc were ‘written’ by people who could not write, poorly educated, diseased, poor. They were not written for precise recital but to put a bit of pleasure back into some of there loved ones lives. No tune, be it the simple Kesh or some other made up toon need be played twice the same but as long as it puts a smile on the face or gets the feet tappin’ what the hey. Come on down folk, its the penny whistle were talking about here, not the London Phil!!!

totally agree

[Kevin_L_Rietmann]

It’s definitely great to try and play as slow as possible, although perhaps not quite in the manner of John Cage’s composition “As Slow As Possible,” the playing of which began last February. The first note will take a year and a half to play. The whole thing will be finished in 639 years…
The uilleann piper Jerry O’Sullivan gave some great advice in a lesson, which I promptly ignored of course… :roll: He said to play jigs so slow they sound like waltzes, and reels so slow they sound like marches. Plenty of time to get everything just right, and you double your repetoire to boot! Jerry lives in, or is from Yonkers, New York. Hence, he’s the Yonker Piper. Trying saying that without giggling! “Ladies and gentleman, the Yonker Piper Jerry O’Sullivan!”

[bjs]

I found it difficult to put rolls in place of dotted quarter notes when given only the sheet music. Either they came out too fast or too slow thus ruining the rythm. I now use the following method which works for me.

1. learn the tune as is.
2. learn the tune playing 3 repeated eigth notes in place of dotted quarters.
3. play over and over the stretch with the three eigths alternately with the same stretch with the rolls in place of the three eigths.

What do you think?
Of course I could still be getting the daah blaah blaah wrong.


Brian

[The_Weekenders]

Not sure about your method but I will relate that my breakthrough on rolls (since the original posts so long ago) was accomplished by practicing them in jigs, not reels. I find it easier to do a strong beat roll in jig rhythm, probably because it reinforces the idea of triplets. Long rolls in reels, followed by the eighth always seem a bit trickier. The hardest of all to grasp and play evenly, for me, are reels that start with a roll and no pickup, especially on the note B.

Examples are Primrose Lass (starts on a B) and McKennas #2 (starts on a high E). Just making up a pickup of two notes help get the tongue right or something.

Don’t forget to listen to fiddles and pipes playing rolls for a re-inforcement of the concept.

[Bloomfield]

@bjs

I found it difficult to put rolls in place of dotted quarter notes when given only the sheet music. Either they came out too fast or too slow thus ruining the rythm. I now use the following method which works for me.

1. learn the tune as is.
2. learn the tune playing 3 repeated eigth notes in place of dotted quarters.
3. play over and over the stretch with the three eigths alternately with the same stretch with the rolls in place of the three eigths.

What do you think?
Of course I could still be getting the daah blaah blaah wrong.


Brian

It sounds good to me. You can start by tonguing the three eigth notes, and then separating them with a cut and a tap, and voila: a long roll.