owners of Cillian O'Briain low D

I’ve owned this instrument for about two years, and have been having mixed thoughts about this particular low D. The problem is that the first octave is way too quiet; even when playing late at night. But the sound, particularly in the upper octave, is very sweet and not too harsh. Quite useful for slow airs – and playing at places like small chapels – but even so the first octave is on the verge of extinction, and i guess no one (even me) won’t be able to hear the lower notes. This low D came out of hiding about a month ago (thought I lost it), and is now sitting before my pc display. My only wish is that the fist octave would become louder…no air-requirement problem so far though.

Anyone else own a Cillian low D? What’s your thoughts?

I have had one of the whistles you are talking about, a low C/D set actually. I them back some of the reasons you describe, mainly I preferred the backpressure and volume of my Overtons better.

So, Tak, you finally found the O Briain! I tried to buy it from you when you listed it for sale here once, and then you told me you lost it-that was a while ago now!

I’m glad to hear you found it, but it shouldn’t play like that. Do you remember that it was the same way before you lost it? I have one of Cillian’s Low Ds (and played another) and also have a Low Eb, and the low octave is fine on both. They don’t quite honk on the low D and E like a flute, but they have a good volume. So, either it wasn’t made right to start with, or there is something in the windway or tube that is interfering with the air flow. There could be a metal shaving inside, or something else.

Moisture clogging the windway will make any low whistle weaker in the low notes, so you might want to be sure it is fully warm before play, and dipping the fipple in soapy water, and then letting it dry will help to keep condensation from clogging the windway.

If everything is clear inside (make sure there are no insects that crawled in there to hibernate during the time you couldn’t find it), or give it a good soak in something like dishwasher detergent (Cascade Complete with enzyme action) to clean it internally, and if it still is too quiet, then I would try contacting Cillian and see if you could send it back to him for to check it out and see what the problem might be.

One last thought, does the blade at the bottom of the window look damaged or dull? There should be a sharp bevel on it, as there are on mine.

I count my O Briain’s as some of the best low whistles I have had (which were many), with a really nice tone, and very responsive in their playing.

The only time I had trouble is when the moisture affected them-so coat the windway, warm it up well, and then see what happens.

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.

Just in case someone would like to hear what a Cillian O Briain Low D
should sound like, here are two clips from Clips and Snips Archives under Jigs, by Michele from France. The first line is just how it is listed, followed by the shortcut link. I’d say he’s quite talented too!

Michael McGoldrick’s …Cillian O’Briain low D…Michele Bresciani…3/28/05

http://www.tinwhistletunes.com/clipssnip/Audio/03-05/MichaelMcGoldrick'sMicheleB.mp3

Willy Walsh’s Jig…Cillian O’Briain low d… Michele Bresciani…4/24/05

http://www.tinwhistletunes.com/clipssnip/Audio/04-05/willywalshsjigMicheleB.mp3

Nice clips Barry. I have an O’Briain tuneable low D and a non-tuneable low F. The Low D actually has a perfectly normal moderate low end with a really nice sound - almost reminiscent of my old Howard. The top end is great as well. Really nice whistle. My only problem is that the tone holes are a bit large for my fingers and coverage becomes a problem esp on faster tunes. Also I really don’t play any of my Low D whistles much at all, so I never really work on that.

Tak - You didn’t mention whether the whistle is tuneable. If so, perhaps there is also a problem at the tuning slide - is it loose at all or wobbly, i.e., the teflon tape or whatever is in there has worn away and air is escaping? THat’s unlikely though as you’d probably notice it in the upper octave as well. Mine is very tight.

Philo

I almost forgot about my own post! sorry…

Anyway thank you for the replies!

I made sure that the windway’s clear and the whistle well warmed-up before playing, but still the lower notes are very weak. It’s very likely that I don’t simply got an idea how to properly handle this whistle. :cry:

This one requires some strange playing technique…sort of “breathing into”, rather than blowing into it. Very different from Chieftains or Overtons…no backpressure whatsoever (perhaps I’ve played high-backpressure whistles too much?)

it’s non-tunable, btw.


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