Octave problems and playing in tune

Hello piper addicts,



This is the third time that I have posted this article in the last 4-5 years. I receive quite a few calls asking for advice about certain notes being out of tune. Many of you have read this article but here’s to you beginners. I hope it help

All the best,
Pat Sky

Playing in Tune
By Patrick Sky

Let’s assume that you have a new chanter and it comes with a reed that, according to the maker, is a good reed. You strap the chanter on and some of the notes are sharp or flat. You then take the chanter to a good piper that you know and he plays the chanter, and it is in perfect pitch. He says that it is a very good chanter and reed. What is wrong? Most likely the problem is your inability to “control” the chanter. A new reed, in most cases, is not going to help you.

I have been playing the pipes for over 30 years and I have never found the perfect chanter/reed combination; that is, a chanter that plays in perfect tune in both octaves with only the slightest change in pressure. When I play my chanter it is in great tune and pitch. When Todd Denman plays my chanter at first it is not in good tune, but after a few minutes it “comes in”. Why is that? It is because some of the notes have to be forced to play in tune either by using a different fingering or by increasing or decreasing the pressure. Getting these “wild” notes in tune is what I mean by control. All master pipers know this.
For example, on most chanters the 2nd octave G is flat. I almost always force the note by lifting the chanter and applying more pressure.
Then there is the problem of the first octave E being sharp, and then flat in the 2nd octave. On most chanters one has to place a small piece of tape across the E hole to flatten the first octave and then lift the chanter off of the knee when ever the 2nd octave E is played. This produces an E note with a “whooping” sound; which adds color to the music; listen to Liam O’Flynn—almost all of his 2nd octave E’s have a “whoop” sound as he lifts the chanter. That is because Liam’s Rowsome chanter is flat in the 2nd octave E.

Next we have the 2nd octave A. If the hole for the A is large enough to produce an on pitch note by lifting the G and F# fingers, then the B will be sharp. Most pipemakers make the 2nd A note slightly flat so that the B will be in pitch. To bring in, and sharpen the A, simply play the A with the G finger down or sometimes with the F# finger down. You just have to practice this fingering until it feels natural.
The problem of the C natural being sharp has to be mastered by keeping your finger in contact with the chanter and “pointing” so that you half hole the C# note. This will produce a nice sliding effect and bring the C note into tune.

Finally, remember that the thumb hole D must be adjusted so that it will play with the same amount of pressure as the 2nd octave E.
As I said in the first paragraph, you must learn to “control” your playing or you will never play in tune. Every chanter is different so try moving your fingering around to locate the proper fingering and pressure of each individual note. By using different fingerings on my Kenna B chanter I can get 3 distinct A notes in the 1st octave (one being on pitch and 2 not on pitch) and the same for the F# in the 1st octave. This will seem like piping hell at first, but after a while you will get used to it and not even think about it.

I too have been playing over 30 years.

That’s a very good article.

Actually a professional tuba player once told me, “The perfect wind instrument has never been made.” So it’s not just an uilleann pipe thing. Every tuba, he explained, has bad notes that the player has to compensate for.

Each reed/chanter combination has a unique set of issues and a good player will get used to compensating for these.

On my chanter, which I’ve been playing with the same reed since 1982, the upper-octave F# and G are spot-on.
I have the chanter adjusted so that low E is a tiny bit sharp and high E is a tiny bit flat. I push out the high E, back off on low E, and it’s close. For an exactly in tune low E I’ve got used to shading the holes with my fingers a bit.

On my chanter, at least, high A has to be fingered

x xxo oxxx

to be spot-on in tune. I usually play vibrato with the lower-hand index finger and the note is perceived as being exactly in tune.

High B is a tad sharp unless the hole is shaded or the fingering

x xox xxxx

is used.

I’m so used to doing these things that I’m not aware of them.

When I see other pipers, I often see that their chanters are tuned differenly and that they have a different set of strategies.

For example, many chanters seem to have an upper-octave F# that’s off and requires the fingering

x xxx xoxo

to play in tune.

Likewise I see many pipers always playing the upper-octave G

x xxx oxxx

while that fingering on my chanter makes a G that’s too flat.

Also I see others fingering high A

x xxo xxxx

which is flat on my chanter.

In my chanter the only different fingering is Cnat

x oxx oxxx x