Na Pháidínaí O Raifearta

As many of you know, the tune “Páidín O Raifearta” comes in various flavors. There is the widely known and played version in the key of D. There is also the version in G that was popularized by Willie Clancy. Mick O’Brian also has performed this G version.

Congregation…please turn to pages 64 and 65 of your hymnals: “The Dance Music of Willie Clancy” now…

What I am curious about is the structure of this G version. If you are using the D version as a reference, then this G version is contructed: B,A,(a new or variant part), and then C. It would make more sense to play the B part first.

Any idea why this G version is contructed and played this way?

Would it be taboo to play that B part first? 'cos I really, really want to.

T

Taboo or not “Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law”…


— A. Crowley.


:smiley:

There is also a third distinct (two-part) tune by this name, recorded by Tim Collins (Dancing on Silver), Charlie Piggott and Gerry Harrington (The New Road), and the Mulcahy Family (Notes from the Heart), among others. I vaguely remember someone mentioning that there is a fourth tune as well.

I don’t think it matters where you start that G version; there’s a pretty rich tradition of people starting tunes with the B part, whether by mistake or intention.

Kevin Burke and Ged Foley have a great (it’s pipe friendly!) version in A as well.

T

Have a listen to Páidín Ó Raifeartaigh as sung by Peadar Ó Ceannabháin for the setting in G (see www.grafxsource.com/MCS/Sampla_3.html for details). Without checking, I think this is the setting that Mick O’Brien recorded.

:slight_smile: P.

No, he’s singing The Black Rogue there; the sound sample only has the first song in the set.

A friend of mine plays a version in A on the Scottish smallpipes.

Yep. But he sings Páidín Ó Raifeartaigh at the end of the set. Not on the sample, though. You’ll have to get the album, or find someone to sing it for you.

:slight_smile: P.

I’ve heard the Mulcahy Family version of this tune, and liked it very much. There seems to be four parts at first glance, but the forth seems a variation of the first. I can’t see any reason why you couldn’t start with the second part of this version, heck, players have been re-ordering parts of tunes for eons.

In the same book “Dance Music of Willie Clancy”, Pat Mitchell notated two versions of the “Dublin Reel”,
( turn now to pages 58 and 59, and please stand …)
one in D and one in the unlikely key of C, which Clancy worked out nicely without resorting to the use of F natural. Lends a nifty darker tone color to this tune on the chanter.

Here’s an odd thought. Perhaps the C and G versions of these tunes were handed down from his concertina playing parents?? Many D tunes are easier in C on concertina, and if you have a C/G instrument in would oblige one to play D tune this way. Hmmm.

I don’t know – the C version of the Dublin Reel sounds to me more like something Clancy would have come up with himself by experimentation, and it feels like it was made for the pipes…have a listen to him playing it:

http://homepage.mac.com/bhurley/.Public/dublinc.mp3

Awesome.

Quite tasty. I need a napkin.

Ceadach, do you still have that Clancy tape I made for you over a decade ago? Loads of great music on that if I recall, equally as drool producing as the above version of the Dublin Reel posted above.

Ceadach, do you still have that Clancy tape I made for you over a decade ago? Loads of great music on that if I recall, equally as drool producing as the above version of the Dublin Reel posted above

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Oh yes and many blessings upon you for it. Stunning stuff. That tape has kept me piping thru divorce, injury, etc. :wink: It is held with great veneration in the household! I even made a backup copy should it meet a bad end. I do think you are right, Willie is playing flat chanter on that tape ( I think about a B ??) but tonight I’ll take it out and check.