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Oh my Jon, are you asking for it!
Lovely!
I know I’ve seen that flute in the last few months, although I dunno that it was on ebay. I’d be cautious.
Yeah but that flute might have been a nightmare for some poor elephant!
Hopefully it was some fossil tusk - but I doubt it!
Also, good luck getting it into the country. I’ve heard that they confiscate ivory sometimes irregardless if it is an antique or not. Hopefully that permit will help.
Casey
Is that CPVC? ![]()
Eric
It is just a “dream flute”… Just dreaming… I doubt very much Monzani used fossilized tusk to make his flutes! A flute made in the 1830’s would be considered “pre-ban” when it comes to the law of the land…
There was a bunch of fossil ivory coming out of the Urals then. It could be fossil.
I have worked some Alaskan ivory that is pure white - except on the outside of the tusk where it had the blue vivianite. Got tired of using it though and went to polyester fake ivory. Got tired of that and now I just enjoy wood and silver.
Casey
Ya, I got some mammoth ivory, looked just like the fresh stuff, but it wouldn’t be fossilized as it was just frozen in the permafrost not fossilized. Am I right in this? I like working with wood and silver too, but occasionally a antique will need a new ivory piece repaired or replaced.
I understand that to make a ivory flute they had to steam or boil the ivory to straighten it, is that correct?
I recall somebody, maybe Andrew K, saying that ivory
hasn’t exceptional acoustical propertries. So maybe it
sounds less good than wood.
Your right, it probably won’t be worth the $11,000 that it will sell for… ![]()
I’ve got a bone quena that is the exact same specs as a blackwood one I have…the bone(which probably would sound the same as ivory), sounds okay but the wood one is better. The bone sounds almost like plastic, wouldn’t say it’s worth it. I would assume ivory has the same characteristics as bone?
No.
http://www.jayfisher.com/custom_knife_handle_materials_horn,_bone,_ivory.htm
“Ivories and tusks are unusually dense, some of the densest, hardest animal parts and remains. They are much less porous than bone, therefore last longer, are less apt to absorb liquids, and polish better.”
http://www.maggiecp.co.uk/free_organic_gems-magazine/background_to_ivories.html
“The material most commonly confused with ivory is bone. It has the same colour and in small pieces it may not be possible to discern any structure. However, almost all bone is hollow and cannot therefore be carved into solid figures. To construct an item from bone with a top and bottom (e.g. the box illustrated), there must be joins. Also, bone has a characteristic totally lacking in ivories: tiny, nutrient-bearing canals, called Haversian canals. These appear as dark dots in cross-section, and as little lines along the length of the material.”
Also:
http://reviews.ebay.com/Real-Ivory-vs-Bone-or-Resin-Synthetic-Products_W0QQugidZ10000000001279117
Kevin Krell
oohhh jon, you won the lottery, that you are after a flute of 11.000? ![]()
it is a BEAUT though…drool
berti
Am I the only one that prefers wood? I don´t like too much. Sorry.
S.
This is either identical or the same flute that Andrew Kirby owned, I saw it in the flesh, just amazing workmanship.
yes, andrew had this one or one just like it.
There’s some serious wow factor here.
You are right, it does look like the one Andrew had. Andrew’s had a crack in the head joint, Chris Wilkes wanted to fill it and Andrew wanted to unscrew it and re-bore it.
I wonder what happened to all his nice flutes? I imagine Chris was willed a few.
Dang, even a low B. I wonder how much it weighs?
As a piece of work and a cultural artifact, it’s fascinating. As a “using” instrument … I’ll stick with my dead tree parts.
But wow, some major love went into that. Like a Faberge egg.
Yep it is Andrew’s flute. I didn’t think there could be two like that! Beautiful but like Cat I think I’ll stick to flutes made from logs.