Mopane vs. African Blackwood

Jim: Glad it was interesting. Good to know Jim, I find it’s rare that anyone can hear what I’m hearing, I realize these are very subtle distinctions, but I enjoy tuning into subtle details.

I agree that the vibration of the flute isn’t significantly acting as a “speaker” and sending out sound waves of it’s own. I think the resonance might affect the air column inside, however.
For instance, if it resonates too much, it turns too much of the sound energy into vibration, making it very loud and squawky, but not pleasant (say, a flute made of styrofoam, balsa, or paulownia). In a way like a banjo does, compared to a denser-top instrument like a guitar. On the other end, if it doesn’t resonate at all, because it’s dense and stiff, and only reflects the sound, then the air can’t vibrate as freely, and is sort of stifled. I think this happens with flutes that have overly thick walls.
In the middle would be resonating somewhat, which allows the air to move more freely, but reflecting somewhat, to project the sound outward. Getting the right balance across the whole tonal range isn’t possible, so every choice has compromises. The top flute makers seem to get more balance, so I think they fine tune the wall thickness, bore diameter, etc.
This is all assuming the material is stiff, like wood. Of course a mushy material like latex is going to dampen the sound and neither reflect nor vibrate, as much as wood does.

I do think the sound travels through the wood though. This has been studied in other wind instruments, where the soundwave actually extends out beyond the chamber, and returns back into it (bizzare, I know). This could mean the wood acts as a filter, coloring the sound as it moves through it. I’m not talking about sound that simply escapes through the wall of the flute, which would be minimal and almost imperceptible. It can be visualized as the peaks and troughs of the wave actually existing beyond the outer wall of the flute, rather than being contained within it. I don’t understand how this works, but physics is weirder the more I learn about it.

Conical Bore: I agree completely that the reflectivity is the dominant effect, this is proved out by making a flute of a much lighter wood, or pvc, which still sounds pretty good. And smoothness or roughness of bore has a huge impact on the sound. But it doesn’t mean the other aspects aren’t coloring the sound to some degree. I love the look of Cocus too, one of the best, it’s sad it’s so depleted. But there are lots of beautiful woods.

Check to see if you’re feeling it in your thumbs, too. That’ll tell you. :slight_smile:

over the years i have had quite a few mopane flutes (at the moment i have a keyed solen lesouef and keyless on order from Gallagher), being a woodworker and artist i love the way the wood looks and that’s a big part in my choosing it (boxwood sounds too airy to me though i love the looks of it)…but i have never had a mopane flute sound as tight and reedy as blackwood.
to me, the player, i think i can very much hear the difference in wood and density…even if 10’ away it sounds the same…i play for myself and i have to like the tone.

I used to have a mopane folk flute. The thing I remember most is that it smelled really nice and the wood was really pretty. I have a boxwood flute now and every time I play it people remark how pretty it sounds. I’m not even a very good flute player.

I’ve sort of stayed out of this discussion but thought I would throw in a few comments. Mopane is one of my favorite woods to make flutes from. It has enough stability, oxidizes to a deep red color almost black, machines well (though it is somewhat harder than blackwood and boxwood to drill and ream, and dulls tools faster), and makes a superb instrument. I find the character of the tone initially to be slightly less distinct than blackwood, but slightly warmer and richer. After the flute has gone through its break-in period however, it seems to gain the distinctness and increase the warmth of the sound. I realize such terms as “distinctness” and “warmth” are subjective. Its just that I find that in the long run, I just like the sound of a Mopane flute better.

Alas! It used to be easier to get in the States - especially when my nearby wood supplier in Portland had lots of it. But he sold out his supply long ago and the mills in Africa no longer had it. He was just there last year and saw lots of it standing but its a long way to where it can be processed and the people who processed it in the past are retired or gone. There are a few places that sell it here - someone reportedly brought in several logs. Unfortunately, this person waxes the entire stick rather than just at the ends and so nothing starts drying until one scrapes or turns this wax off (except at the ends). I have to machine it and let it sit for a year or more before I can use it. Because of this and the fact that I don’t have that much of it I stopped selling Folk Flutes from it, and only make 5-10 flutes a year from it with longer waiting times.

Casey

I find the character of the tone initially to be slightly less distinct than blackwood, but slightly warmer and richer. After the flute has gone through its break-in period however, it seems to gain the distinctness and increase the warmth of the sound. I realize such terms as “distinctness” and “warmth” are subjective. Its just that I find that in the long run, I just like the sound of a Mopane flute better.’

Something like this expresses (especially the first sentence) the subjective
response of some of us. I don’t know what to think, ultimately, but finally I am
guided by how things seem to me.

Hello Jim
… and others who are here discussing Mopane vs Blackwood. CITES has decided that brown is the new black and flute makers will eventually migrate to Mopane or other good tone wood as stocks of pre-CITES African Blackwood deplete and disappear.

Yesterday, I posted two raw un-edited and simply played recordings to let you hear, if you can, the difference in tone between a flute made from African Blackwood (panned right) and Mopane Flutewood (panned left). The flutes are identical. I made them myself. The recordings are made one after the other, same mic, same distance, same day, same player, same everything …
Use headphones to listen and remove right earphone to hear the Mopane flute and left earphone to hear the Blackwood flute on its own.

You can hear the recordings here:
https://www.facebook.com/adams.flutemaker.9
You can see more pictures of both flutes here: https://www.adams.se/flutemaker

If only you’d not told us that, but instead asked us which was which…