Just like some feedback...

Irish Flute
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You confused me there for a moment, Jem. The one we’ve been talking about is in A Dorian (despite what the Fiddler’s Companion says) and the other one is in G and is definitely a different tune.

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Both entries mention the modes but then give the ABC key signature as “G”. I’m not qualified to distinguish/comment.

Here are the dots from the above as well

Meantime, I’ve followed up on my previous comment: here’s my “decent session speed” run through of both tunes (I hope that means flowingly brisk, but not crazy finger-melting and tuneless…). Please bear in mind I’d never tried to play either tune before yesterday and am still cribbing off the dots - am more-or-less up to speed and doing a bit of variation, but still stumbling now and then and I certainly don’t “have” them off pat or memorised! However, I think this is more like my own natural approach, trying for now not to reflect other performances in this thread (but I’ll be pinching/absorbing ideas in due course, no doubt), and will be the bones of how my playing of them develops. (Perhaps this is a kind of case study with reference to the recent thread on modes of tune-acquisition, notation interpretation, aural influences and learning in ITM?)

P.S. This time the flute is my own R&R with new Wilkes head.

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Ah. I thought you were making a distinction between the one we’ve been talking about and the other one “in A Dorian”, which didn’t make sense. I only skimmed the Fiddler’s Companion entries. They are, as usual, pretty fair transcriptions of what is usually played in the case of both tunes. I don’t think I had a name for the one they’ve listed as #1, and I’ve always thought of the Flowers of Red Hill as being the second one - the one this thread has been about.

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I know the first one as “the flowerS of the (red) MILL” (from John McKenna and few other sources), which is a completely different tune indeed. Nice playing Jem, especially on the first tune :slight_smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6vkk4SrL30

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Thanks Lorenzo. That alternate title looks to me like a classic example of misread handwriting (“M” and “H” getting confused - common enough!) generating a new name! Wouldn’t like to guess in which direction it got shifted, though.

OK, playing this pair of tunes got me wanting a third to complete a set… and I was going to go hunting - knew I wanted a mode/key shift to lift it… So, when I came in at lunch time after teaching my piccolo project kids at Garth School I was noodling at where it ought to go, intending to find a sort-of 1st bar and then use Tunepal to suggest possibles… but instead a whole tune popped out! Title reflects the inspiration and the contemporary weather here!

So yur 'tis! The whole set - feel free to comment and, of course, to use my tune if anyone likes it enough…

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And of course I had to do a clip - to avoid boredom I’ve just gone through the Red Hill tunes once each to contextualise and show the transition, then 3 times through my new one; "fell off"a bit at the end (dammit, I only finished writing it 25 minutes earlier), but gives the general idea.

Thanks very much, Arbo, for starting this thread - look what it’s gone and made me do! :poke: :slight_smile: :party:

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You are welcome Jem. And nice tune! Would like to hear the whole set slowed down a bit…
Arbo

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Ah, Arbo, you have the Audacity to suggest I Slow Down when I’ve only just managed to reel 'em off at reelistic speed! Amazing. I’m not soft(-ware). :wink:

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“Flowers in the Frost”–nice tune Jem. Playing it on my silver flute to get in the G#'s. Has a bit of a Scottish tone to it the way you use the dominant 7. I like it.

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Here’s what I can offer to this thread. I’m playing my Hammy practice flute - not great for tone, but it’s convenient.
http://www.box.net/shared/oqa1598kg2

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I recommend slowing down and letting the tune breathe a little bit.

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Yes, I do! And, no, you are not software (Thank God!)…
Arbo

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Where’s Denny when one needs someone to "appreciate " one’s word-play??? :laughing:

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I’m sure he’s out there somewhere…

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Ah, Denny, and I thought nothing could phase you???

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Why does the moon do that anyway? Did I miss something in school that day I had ‘a bad stomach’?

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I’m fairly certain mine didn’t know…

http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases.phtml

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Wow, GREAT thread! Thanks to Arbo for kicking it off …

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Arbo, do you see what happens when you ask for a little feedback on your playing?
As for the question about the moon doing its light/dark tricks, that has always been a mystery to me as well. The best answer that I can think of is that G_d made it that way. I can always use that answer if I don’t know what I’m talking about. This moon business is a section of the book that I went through quickly when I was teaching middle school science, hoping that no bright kids in the class would ask difficult questions. I really didn’t like getting telephone calls from the parents about what I told their children in science class.

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science in public school…

If you could run the mimeograph you were God,
at least to the other teachers.

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You’re welcome… now, I am going to crawl back into my dark corner and put my head between my legs. :blush:
At least until I have the courage to ‘put myself out there’ again.
Arbo