Hello everyone, this is my first incursion into the whistle forum!
I would like to know How is possible to recognize an
Overton D whistle made before 1999.
(of course from 1999 Colin explaied how new overton are marked)
I posses an 1979 low D Overton bought in Ireland from “Walton’s”
and his origianl owner is a very well-known flute player.
And is very difficult (for a flute player like me 
)
to distinguish it (for example) from a chieftains one.
I have also seen this picture of a soprano in D:
and again I have few means to understand if this is an original one
because the seller said it was bought during the 80th…
(and I think ie that this blue cover is used by overton in 90th)
can someone Help me? :roll:
Frank
I think you imply that you have already done so, but if not I would contact Colin and Brigitte directly. They are super gracious people and will bend over backwards to help you with your questions.
Yes, I will do into next weeks, for now I’m looking for some chats through the whistlers of the forum : )
Frank
Hello Frank,
in your case and the date of the original buy of the whistle I think there was not much else around being full aluminium whistles but Overtons. Your whistle definitely is a Bernard Overton Overton, the fraud problems only started in 96/97.
Technically all Overtons are stamped, Bernard started stamping early as Waltons had started to put stickers on his whistles and selling them as “Walton whistles” which he did not appreciate and had a stamp made up so there will be some old Overtons out there not stamped and we have seen a couple with the Waltons stickers still on. Certainly from at least the 90s on they are all stamped.
Part of the licence agreement for making Overtons not made by Bernard strictly said, they should ALL have Overton stamped on them. If you come across one that you know is from the 90s and later not stamped it is not an Overton.
If you need help to differentiate please contact and send a picture, Colin can normally spot from how the mouthpiece is finished if it is a Bernard Overton whistle or not. Colin has been signing or stamping CSG OVERTON on his since after the first three months of making them in 93 to make it easy to identify his work.
In any case if the Low D was bought when he told you it was, then you have a Bernard Overton Overton.
Hope this helps, enjoy playing it.
Happy belated Easter
Brigitte
Just for the record.
There are quite a few Overtons out there with the Overton stamp that were made by myself from around April 92 until around 95 when Bernard took the Oveton stamp back.From then on I used to stamp OV on the back until 97.If you have a whistle with OV on the back it’s one of mine,I didn’t inscribe my initials and date inside the tube or offer a verification card as it didn’t seem important at the time. So if you are not sure if you have one of my Overtons or not,please send me a picture and I’ll should be able to verify for you as there are subtle differences.
Please remember that I made Overtons from 1993-97.
Phil.
Thanks to all!
I really happy about yours explanations I have just known
that the soprano D (in the photo) has been bought in dublin in 1982
and it’s marked “Overton” on the side and “D” on the bottom
and the whistle has a Black (or blue) cover…
So it seems to be an Bernard Overton.
By the way I will send to Colin the photos of both the whistles
as soon as I will recive the whistle..
Frank
Batten down the hatches!! 
