Girl escapes eight year kidnap ordeal

Not sure if this should be in the political forum?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2351466

http://www.gulfnews.com/world/Austria/10062390.html

What an an unbelivable story.
The poor girl, poor family!

I saw that this morning too. What really freaks me out is that I had my house rewired a couple of years ago by a Hungarian electrician. What do I need to know? :astonished:

djm

Jeez cant believe nobody picked up on this and thought it was abso;utely mental!!! whats wrong with you people?

The perpetrator, clearly, was a nut. I feel very badly for the poor girl.

I thought throwing himself in front of a train was a bit much. :really:

djm

There isnt an emoticon to express my response! i take it that that was some mild form of sarcasm?

Jeez, im startin to sound like a certain C&F member that rhymes with “Banberry fayre” (without the fayre bit!)!

I’m not sure why you, in your first post, thought this story should possibly be in the political forum, so perhaps I’m not understanding something.

I am sure that everyone who reads about this crime thinks it is terrible. You can just assume that. Only a really sick person would not think so.

Most people probably think that, since they cannot say anything that will help the woman and her family or will prevent such a crime from happening again, there is not much point in stating the obvious which would be “Oh, that is so terrible. It is really horrifying.”

Unless a person is a criminologist or forensic psychologist or the like, discussing the details of something so awful doesn’t seem very worthwhile when you can’t help anyone by talking about it.

I don’t think you should take the lack of response as an indication that people are cold-hearted. Believe me, they think it is terrible for the woman and her family and that the man was clearly insane, but they, like me, don’t have any further comments about it worth posting. What can you really say about something like this beyond the obvious?

I know sometimes something will hit me especially hard and other people don’t seem to take it the same way I do. I imagine that happens to everyone. So maybe this story is affecting you in some special way that other people just aren’t experiencing. They all think it is terrible, of course, but maybe the story is saying something to you that it isn’t saying to everyone else. I don’t know, it’s just a thought.

Perhaps you have difficulty communicating your feelings? I think that if this guy had lived he would have gotten either a slap-on-the-wrist prison sentence or a life-time nuthouse prescription but either way in three or four years, someone would get him to write a book about it and everyone would be horrified that he wrote a book about it but everyone would buy the book too and he would get quite rich from it and become a bit of a minor celebrity showing up on talk shows and university lecture tours and maybe get his photo taken with Bono or somebody famous and everyone would pay lip-service to how horrible what he did was but they’d still pay a load o’ cash to go and see him and hear him speak and of course all the big American networks would want to have him on cuz they gotta keep them ratings up and eventually some other nutjob would try to wax his sick ass just to get on the six o’clock news and all this would make the meaning of the original crime kinda get lost in the noise. Dontcha think? :smiley:

djm

The horror of it all was probably what drove him to throw himself under the train.

I’m glad she was able to get out, and I wonder if this sort of thing doesn’t happen more often than we think.

There’s a lot of sick, sick people out there. It’s stories like this that make it difficult for me to keep my faith in humanity from being a negative number, if it could be expressed numerically.

Sorry, but I doubt it. The fact that she had escaped, and that he was about to be nicked would, I suspect, have been the more likely reason for him to choose the quick way out. Isn’t capturing and enslaving someone to your will a sort of “quick way out” versus having to deal with another person in a real, caring, equal relationship?

djm

I’m trying to square the above with the post to which flanum’s quote was directed in response, speaking of things getting “lost in the noise”.

But I don’t know enough of the Austrian penal code to say that you’re right or wrong, in any case. You do, I take it?

Cynth is right. This is just so far beyond any frame of reference I have nothing to say but the obvious.

There are very few truly “sick” people committing these crimes; 95% know exactly what they are doing.

This rings true with my understanding, as well. At some point a choice was made. Subsequent decisions were based on that choice. From what I 've read, the cell was heavily sound proofed. He would disappear for days at a time, presumably for work, leaving her locked up alone. She was not out free the day she escaped. She was allowed out because she was to clean his car for him. He got careless.

If he had lived he would be a media sensation. Remember what a star Charles Manson became for a while? If investigators now find anything in the dead kidnapper’s hand that explains or describes his behaviour, you can be sure it will be published. We will make him a posthumus celebrity.

djm