Environmentally Friendly Flute

Now that I’ve seen the errors of my decadent ways! :laughing:

I’ll Present the Environmentally Friendly Flute:

Must be so, says so right on the bottom of this flyer. :really:

:wink:

why do I wonder if they are printed?

Don’t be so sure it’s environmentally friendly. Plastic doesn’t grow on trees, you know. I shudder when I think of how we drove the Nauga to extinction in our quest for seat cover material. It’s similar to what happened to the bison. Take the hide and leave the rest to rot. When was the last time you saw a Nauga? Or, for that matter, a Nubuck?

True. Sometimes I wake in the night screaming.

Just one word “Plastics”! :smiley:

David, I suspect you live in the wrong part of the forrest. They are all over the place, in fact you can’t get rid of the little buggers. They seem to last forever.

If I am not mistaken the Tocco flute is also a development of the Guo flute company that make the grenaditte flutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obWTaS7An_Y

They are coming, they are coming.

Not to my house. Call me backward.

too easy :really:

I had the same thought.

Hardly matters, they do have a certain look to them. I’ve read elsewhere that all the key mechanisms are molded. It’s curious to me that the Guo brothers have taken on this industrial aesthetic for their flutes since they hand made metal flutes for many years. There are quite a few flute retailers and players pushing Guo products. I suspect the mark-up must be rather compelling.

Feadoggie

If they’re really environmentally friendly, they’ll be biodegradable. As is befitting of them.

No, I’m being snarky. I’m sure they’re acceptable starter instruments. Their toylike look belies the price tag, though.

That’s the rub here, innit? Geoffrey Guo makes very expensive flutes. They worked in precious metals for some years and went over to the grenaditte composite material in 2005-ish and the flutes still carry a high price. The Tocco flute is a bit down market from their New Voice and Grenaditte product lines, but still pretty pricey in my book. I would still like to have a chance to play one and see how it performs. I also wonder what the key mechanism sounds like. Quite a few name players have said nice things about the Grenaditte flute. Oh, the embouchure is still hand cut on the Granaditte and New Voice models as far as I know.

There are more detailed picture here and a bloggy blurb too.

More Grenaditte flute fun here. Keegan must be the worst guy ever to sit next to at a session.

Feadoggie

Well, they certainly sound all right:

http://youtu.be/ym73vdVoNBU

But dang, they look like they should be in “Wallace and Gromit” or something. Not sure if I can get used to their appearance.

All-black would look good.

And I must agree that they sound very good indeed despite initial appearances. “Environmentally friendly”, though…I dunno. I think that’s trying just a bit too hard.

It seems that Guo has saved the all black treatment for the Granaditte model.

Grey is as close as you get with the other lines.
And I’m guessing that even though the plastic isn’t exactly a “green” material that making molded plastic flutes might be a bit more preferable in some ways to all the heavy metals and flux used in making metal flutes. Maybe it’s a coin toss.

Yes, Wallace and Gromit for sure.

My daughter would have killed for one of those flutes in pink when she started out. I might not have had so many dents repaired on such a flute either.

They come in different sizes too not just different colors!

Feadoggie

I figure the “environmental” pitch is based on the lack of logging and silver mining involved in their production. (Do they have copper springs?)

But I’m afraid “plastic” isn’t the first thing that springs to mind when I think of environmentally friendly materials.

Wonder if they’re recyclable for when little Tootie gets to high school and wants a silver flute?

Also, don’t put one near the kettle! :open_mouth:

Off topic and despite my love of the eight keyed conical flute,
I like the sound Phillipe Barnes gets put of his all black Guo.

I also like the album of his I heard despite not being a fan of
jazzy style variatons in flute playing. It just worked in this case the with piano and flute
working so well together.

(not sure which album it was as its been a while)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=obWTaS7An_Y

Well, if you can’t get all black and color’s the thing, I wonder if as another option Guo could be persuaded to cover the whole flute in opalescent Mylar…

Trippy. You know you love it. :smiling_imp:

All kidding aside, I’ll repeat that I’m quite impressed with the sound of these flutes. :slight_smile:

I agree with Feadoggie that $700 list price is a little pricey for a plastic flute that looks a little bit like a toy. By contrast I purchased a new closed hole Venus flute with C foot and beautiful French case on ebay for $100. With dark nickel finish and silver plated keys it looks stunning and plays as nicely as my Yamaha flute, which cost a lot more, even used and twenty years old.

I noticed that the C foot on the Tocco flute is non-adjustable. Does that mean that you can’t rotate the joint? You would think that if it does have a separate foot, you would be able to rotate the joint. With my short pinkies I really need to be able to rotate the foot to fit my hand.

I think that Kathy is right in that you heat may be a issue with the plastic flutes. I don’t think that I would want to leave them in a car in the Arizona sun, and that goes for pvc flutes, as well. I had a customer who left one of my flutes on the dashboard on his pickup truck in Tucson, Arizona. He shouldn’t have done that. It deformed badly. A wooden flute would have cracked, and a metal flutes would have burned your fingers.

Feadoggie, if your daughter’s first flute was plastic, you probably wouldn’t have needed to fix as dents, but you would have had to keep the bottle of superglue handy to fix the broken key parts, which look a little fragile in the Tocco flute.