I recently played my whistle on the 6th floor fire exit of our office where it has a good reverb and sound can be heard nice.
To my surprise someone was actually listening to me without knowing it. I was damn scared when someone spoke out of the dark stairs.
He said: Is that a recorder? How come it looks different. It looks like a curtain rod… That is very resourceful of you.
What I said: No, this is not. This is a deadly weapon which aims to kill assassins in the dark, by revealing them in their cloak and F****C their ears.
O well whistle is not known in my country and the default that they will think is flute.
just did listen one time and telling my first impression
the first one is very sqeuaky for me, i guess its your susato, i dont like the sound
the second squeaks less but still does, can be a whistle also a recorder,
the third sounds nice to me, could be both too
i guess the recorder is the second or the third, i hope its the second otherwise i may get a recorder?
For me … instrument 3 is the recorder, the first two have a whistle’s characteristic “chiff” between some of the notes that is usually missing on a recorder. It will be interesting to hear exactly which instruments these are
I vote for the third, too. It’s sound seems to be the “cleanest” to me, and not so whistle-like. Also, I heard a note being slightly failed there… guessing the whistle is your main instrument, this has to be the recorder!
By the way, I really like the strong timbre of the first one; looking forward to the disclosure!
Since I have a failed note on the 3rd instrument. I made a 2nd version indicated on the OP to be fair on the 3rd instrument.
Just forgive me on the tempo.
Orders are still the same.
So far here are the characteristics mentioned/noted
My guess, first two are whistles, number one likely a Feadog and the other a Susato. Last one sounds like a recorder, especially since your embellishments change a bit. We at the whistle forum tend to equate “recorder” with “bad,” but I think my favorite sounds were from the second and third flutes in your first recording.
My goodness. In C! That surprised me a bit. C whistles and a C recorder.
I’d say that number 3 was the recorder. Number 1 is very edgy like a perhaps somewhat overblown “traditional” whistle. Gen. of Feadog or some such. Number 2 is, to my ears, probably a wider bore instrument. a bit mellower. The guesses above of Susato make some sense to me, but it could be any of a number of other instruments. A whistle though I believe. Number 3 has the much smoother sound (perhaps less overtone in the wave form) I associate with recorders, though it sounds like a plastic one to me and not an expensive one. The sound of the top C is quite different here to my ears, just as the means of playing it is quite different than on a whistle.
OK. Just guesses. It would be interesting if MT and Nano and some of those folks would respond.
It’s a shame that the three instruments weren’t tuned to the same pitch. I think it makes a difference to the perception of the listener. If I were going to make a guess, I would say that the third was probably the recorder, but that is mostly on the basis that it is being played better than the other two IMO, and it seems to me that AS is not yet comfortable on whistle.
On the second version the third instrument sounds different. I listened again to the first version to make sure. It still comes down to one or three being the recorder. Three has more chiff on the second version.
So I listened to the first version two more times and now I’m not sure about three being the recorder. I will stick to my answer but will listen again later.
The slurs to the following Gs are also cleaner here, which seems consistent with moving from X|OXO|OOOO to X|XXX|OOOO where the ‘crossing noises’ on the first two instruments possibly betray an imperfectly synchronised OXX|XXX to XXO|OOO.
But you could have played that quite comfortably in D on a ‘C’ recorder.
I haven’t found a D recorder yet in my life.
Popular in baroque times, and known as a ‘sixth flute’ (because it’s pitched a sixth above the regular treble/alto).
Yeah, I’d say the third is definitely the recorder. Pretty much all the differences that I found have already been mentioned. But, the thing that really gave it away for me was, as Peter said, the sound of going from the C to the G was much cleaner on the third, which makes perfect sense for a recorder. Also, the first two had a “chiffy” kind of sound, I guess you could say it was a bit more harsh, and maybe not as refined as the third.
The third is the recorder. I guess that the first is a Feadog and the second a Walton’s. I play the recorder from time to time. They can be very nice on fast tunes. One of the best “whistles” I heard at a festival was a recorder playing traditional French tunes.
So I shall close this topic now by disclosing the answers.
Answers: #1 Susato Kildare S-Series #2 Feadog with Hoover Cap #3 Maple Plastic Recorder
Thank you for participating.
Based on this, I have deduced the following characteristics
Recorder posses smooth note transition while
whistle posses a different transition quality.
However is it suffice to say that the breath blow affects the note transition perception?
I have said this, but this is just my theory.
I based my theory on the breath use, because whistle has an overblow on the second octave
while recorder does not have (unless on high A-B-C).
Recorder is chiff-less while whistle is chiffy.
However is it suffice to say that the breath blow also affects the chiff factor?
Many were right in guessing the first one is a Susato. My theory is that most who listened based it on the volume.
I was just wondering because, I have read many thread in which they say it is like a recorder.
I wonder in what aspect are they similar, aside from being made from plastic.
I was successful to confuse some that this is an overblown traditional whistle.
Well honestly Susato is like almost near Zero Chiff for me (which I love), so I made some Artificial chiff-ing technique in my fingering and articulation.
